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Or something else? I thought it was haldex (from volvo) but now I'm hearing otherwise, which is it? How does it work?
 

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[quote author=otaku link=topic=66300.msg1137057#msg1137057 date=1168168528]
Or something else? I thought it was haldex (from volvo) but now I'm hearing otherwise, which is it? How does it work?
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I was told haldex (but generation one). The difference between the Haldex on the Fusion and the one on the Edge/Freestyle is the computer checks the wheels quicker for any slippage. The difference is something like a third of a wheel turn.
If the computer detects wheel slippage it gives power to the other wheels that are not slipping. Thus, allowing you to get out of any trouble.
 

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So then the awd system on the fusion is superior to the edge and other ford vehicles? How does it compare with other awd systems on cars like audi, bmw, mercedes, subaru etc?
 

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So then the awd system on the fusion is superior to the edge and other ford vehicles?

How does it compare with other awd systems on cars like audi, bmw, mercedes, subaru etc?
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nope... sorry I guess my first post wasn't clear.
The Edge/Freestyle have Generation 2 (newer, with a few tweaks) - the same that's on the current s40/v50.
From what I've heard. The Haldex is what Audi used to pattern their newest system. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

With all that, and Volvo's history of safety, and R&D, I'd say the Haldex system is #1.
 

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So then the awd system on the fusion is superior to the edge and other ford vehicles?

How does it compare with other awd systems on cars like audi, bmw, mercedes, subaru etc?
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... I'd say the Haldex system is #1.
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So are you saying that an '07 AWD Fusion has the Haldex system?
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seems that's what he's saying. However it also seems that its not the best since there is a gen 2 :(

I like that volvo and audi used it though on some of their vehicles, wish it was gen 2 though
 

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The 500/Freestyle uses the haldex system from the Volvo, but the Fusion uses the Toyoda system, common with the Mazda6. I'm not sure which one the Edge uses, but I thought it was the Toyoda as well. However from what I understand the two systems are virtually identical in function, they use the same system design models. But I think the Toyoda is slightlyl cheaper.
 

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[quote author=Waldo link=topic=66300.msg1138606#msg1138606 date=1168269072]
The 500/Freestyle uses the haldex system from the Volvo, but the Fusion uses the Toyoda system, common with the Mazda6. I'm not sure which one the Edge uses, but I thought it was the Toyoda as well. However from what I understand the two systems are virtually identical in function, they use the same system design models. But I think the Toyoda is slightlyl cheaper.
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So the Fusion uses the Toyoda six-speed automatic transmission, correct? And the Mazda6 also has a six-speed automatic? I didn't know that. Must have been living a cave for a few years. LOL.
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[quote author=Waldo link=topic=66300.msg1138606#msg1138606 date=1168269072]
The 500/Freestyle uses the haldex system from the Volvo, but the Fusion uses the Toyoda system, common with the Mazda6. I'm not sure which one the Edge uses, but I thought it was the Toyoda as well. However from what I understand the two systems are virtually identical in function, they use the same system design models. But I think the Toyoda is slightlyl cheaper.
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I'm a bit confused by this, because I was always informed that the MS6 uses the Haldex as well...


Regardless, as you say, yes, they are very, very similar.
 

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I was told by the dealer it was a haldex system used by audi, volvo etc. oh well. As for the transmission I was told it was an aisin/mitsubishi from Japan
 

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So is the new transmission in the edge etc. better than in the fusion?
 

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What's better, in this price range?
 

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What's better, in this price range?
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Well, I'd go out on a limb and say almost any AWD system out there is better than the Haldex system. That being said, there isn't much in the price range. It is a mechanical system with only the ability to put power f/r, not side to side, though. In addition, it has a default power ratio of 100:0, and a range of 100:0 to 50:50.
 

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Well, I'd go out on a limb and say almost any AWD system out there is better than the Haldex system. That being said, there isn't much in the price range. It is a mechanical system with only the ability to put power f/r, not side to side, though. In addition, it has a default power ratio of 100:0, and a range of 100:0 to 50:50.
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If this statement is true, then Ford is misleading peope to believe that the Fusion AWD system has this ability. If you look on the Ford website, and look at the Fusion, it shows that the AWD system has the ability to power any wheel that has traction.
 

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[quote author=MZ6ZoomZoom link=topic=66300.msg1140490#msg1140490 date=1168358155]
[quote author=urnews link=topic=66300.msg1140218#msg1140218 date=1168330058]
What's better, in this price range?
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Well, I'd go out on a limb and say almost any AWD system out there is better than the Haldex system. That being said, there isn't much in the price range. It is a mechanical system with only the ability to put power f/r, not side to side, though. In addition, it has a default power ratio of 100:0, and a range of 100:0 to 50:50.
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The more I read and learn about our 2007 SEL AWD V6 Fusion, the more depressed I become about our $27,105 MSRP purchase. Obviously my wife and I would have been much better off with a $17,795, I4, 5-speed manual or a rice machine.

Unfortunately, she wouldn't even consider a Toyota, Honda, Suburau, Hyundai, Kia, etc. We were both sold on the Fusion's styling but would probably have been just as happy with the low-end model and a heckuva lot better off financially.
Boz, now slightly sorrowful in Salisbury (Smallsberry), MD
 
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