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Does anyone else have this issue with there 4 cyl and manual tranny. Any time it is wet or there is snow on the ground it wheel hops so hard i think it is going to break an axle. Does anyone make motor mounts or inserts for the 2.3. i know that helped a lot on my neon autocross car and turbo daytona drag car.
 

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Greetings...

We had a snow/ice storm in the nyc-area last night. This morning going to work traveling approx 45mph-50mph..I also had alot of wheel hop. Entering my work parking lot and parking, I noticed thick case of ICE ATTACHED INSIDE THE RIMs- Plus all other sterring/mechancial hardware underneath was full of ice.. Quick fix- a stick to knock it off or hot water...

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[quote author=fusion9 link=topic=69562.msg1209402#msg1209402 date=1171556794]

Greetings...

We had a snow/ice storm in the nyc-area last night. This morning going to work traveling approx 45mph-50mph..I also had alot of wheel hop. Entering my work parking lot and parking, I noticed thick case of ICE ATTACHED INSIDE THE RIMs- Plus all other sterring/mechancial hardware underneath was full of ice.. Quick fix- a stick to knock it off or hot water...

good luck

Max.
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Mine will do it anytime i accelarate to hard and the tires spin. Does not matter if it is cold out or not.
 

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The post about wheel hop due to driving - just accelerate more slowly and you won't have issues. Don't race in rain/snow, etc.

Regarding the other post about wheel hop due to ice - I had the same issue this morning on my commute. Lots of ice gathered on the inside of the rims and threw the balance WAY off. I could barely hold the steering wheel at 60 mph. I took it to the self car wash at lunchtime and sprayed all that ice out of there - fixed the problem. :)
 

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[quote author=Cueball link=topic=69562.msg1209574#msg1209574 date=1171560897]
The post about wheel hop due to driving - just accelerate more slowly and you won't have issues. Don't race in rain/snow, etc.

Regarding the other post about wheel hop due to ice - I had the same issue this morning on my commute. Lots of ice gathered on the inside of the rims and threw the balance WAY off. I could barely hold the steering wheel at 60 mph. I took it to the self car wash at lunchtime and sprayed all that ice out of there - fixed the problem. :)
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i understand the wheels spinning if i hit it to hard but the wheel hop is so bad something is going to break and that is not right. i think the big thing is the motor mounts are just way to soft.
 

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Nasty wheel hop here as well when accelerating into a turn from a dead stop. I have not noticed it turning right so far, only left. Yea it feels like something is going to get seriously f***ed up under there.
 

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I have lots of wheel hop in any condition...but when the tires are wet, it is horrible. I love some of this great advice...don't race in the rain! :sarc: :bitching:
 

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I have the i4 auto and have never had any wheelhop, wet or drop(haven't drivin in ice yet). the auto deliver smooth power transfer and a constant spin, even turning left or right while they spin. I've done a little parking lot adventures and never any problem. I think this might be a manual problem, maybe the clutch is grabby from the cold????
 

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[quote author=mtl1977 link=topic=69562.msg1210846#msg1210846 date=1171588831]
I love some of this great advice...don't race in the rain! :sarc: :bitching:
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Well, my other advice would be to learn to drive a stick! Contour SVT's have a lot of wheel hop too under hard acceleration - many blown differential at drag strips, etc. I never had any problems with mine.
 

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[quote author=Cueball link=topic=69562.msg1211540#msg1211540 date=1171633465]
[quote author=mtl1977 link=topic=69562.msg1210846#msg1210846 date=1171588831]
I love some of this great advice...don't race in the rain! :sarc: :bitching:
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Well, my other advice would be to learn to drive a stick! Contour SVT's have a lot of wheel hop too under hard acceleration - many blown differential at drag strips, etc. I never had any problems with mine.
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learn to drive stick :lol: Maybe you should check out some of my SCCA championships in HS, GS, DSP, and FM all of which are 5 speeds but the FM and that is a Formula 440 so there is no gear box. I have been racing for many many years. Drag as well as Autocrossing and Road racing. I think i know how to drive a stick.
 

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[quote author=Cueball link=topic=69562.msg1211540#msg1211540 date=1171633465]
[quote author=mtl1977 link=topic=69562.msg1210846#msg1210846 date=1171588831]
I love some of this great advice...don't race in the rain! :sarc: :bitching:
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Well, my other advice would be to learn to drive a stick! Contour SVT's have a lot of wheel hop too under hard acceleration - many blown differential at drag strips, etc. I never had any problems with mine.
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:D :D :D Yes, I am well aware of this. My dad told me about it...he blew a few MTX75s up himself (M-plate cars).
 

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[quote author=slaterracing link=topic=69562.msg1211563#msg1211563 date=1171634902]
learn to drive stick :lol: Maybe you should check out some of my SCCA championships in HS, GS, DSP, and FM all of which are 5 speeds but the FM and that is a Formula 440 so there is no gear box. I have been racing for many many years. Drag as well as Autocrossing and Road racing. I think i know how to drive a stick.
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I'm not trying to start a fight. The Fusion is not a race car. It's a fwd (or awd) 4 door grocery getter. It wasn't designed to be driven like a race car. That's why you get some wheel hop.
 

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[quote author=Cueball link=topic=69562.msg1211874#msg1211874 date=1171643394]
[quote author=slaterracing link=topic=69562.msg1211563#msg1211563 date=1171634902]
learn to drive stick :lol: Maybe you should check out some of my SCCA championships in HS, GS, DSP, and FM all of which are 5 speeds but the FM and that is a Formula 440 so there is no gear box. I have been racing for many many years. Drag as well as Autocrossing and Road racing. I think i know how to drive a stick.
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I'm not trying to start a fight. The Fusion is not a race car. It's a fwd (or awd) 4 door grocery getter. It wasn't designed to be driven like a race car. That's why you get some wheel hop.
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I do not race the car and will not as i have my mustang and my F440 for that. But when i am pulling out into traffic and the wheel feels like it is going to go thru the fender there is an issue with it. The motor mounts are way to soft.
 

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Yes I have this trouble too.

It does not just happen when accelerating hard or "racing" in the rain. I experience when I am trying to drive up a hill in the snow and ice under normal and slow acceleration.

Normally I will get the wheel hop when pulling out of somewhere in the rain, but this straight-line snow thing is annoying.

I had this same problem with my Focus, but never with any of my Honda Accords or Toyota Camry's that were manuals.
 

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[quote author=Cueball link=topic=69562.msg1211874#msg1211874 date=1171643394]

I'm not trying to start a fight. The Fusion is not a race car. It's a fwd (or awd) 4 door grocery getter. It wasn't designed to be driven like a race car. That's why you get some wheel hop.
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Don't make absurd comments if you want to avoid a fight...not designed as a race car...so that is why there is wheel hop? Did you quote this from a vehicle dynamics book? Or did I miss something in my physics classes? :rofl:

My 1993 Escort Wagon was definitely not designed as a race car. And the wheels never hopped. In fact, I could smoke the tires on 88 hp and 108 ft-lbs at 163k miles.

The hop issue is related to tire compound, bushings and suspension geometry.
 

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Greetings: S/R

I've driven stick for 20-plus years. Porsche 911T and my Ford Probe GT. Both were modified.
Personally, if I was in your situation I would bring it back to the dealer a.s.a.p. This sounds bad.

Something must be broken or wacked. It does happen. Demand it....

good luck.

Max.
 

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Greetings: S/R

I've driven stick for 20-plus years. Porsche 911T and my Ford Probe GT. Both were modified.
Personally, if I was in your situation I would bring it back to the dealer a.s.a.p. This sounds bad.

Something must be broken or wacked. It does happen. Demand it....

good luck.

Max.
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i am sure they are not going to do anything i think it is just the way the front end is set up. just called and made an apt for monday morning. Will see what they say
 
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