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I paid for the upgrade I can't beleave the locations are empty! Is there existing wiring to tap in to? What size speakers fit? Can I get factory haners & baffles to fit?
Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash!
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Only the "Audiophile" option has speakers in the rear deck. Is this what you paid for? If not- the premium 6 disc/MP3 should have tweeters in the A pillars and 5X7's in all 4 doors. I have the premium and upgraded all the door speakers and added a 12" sub in the trunk. I haven't done a comparison, but I bet it sounds much better than the audiophile.
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I do have tweeters in the A pillars. What I was considering doing was adding aftermarket speakers accompanied by a small amp for the rear deck lid. Also a pair of 12" or 15" subs for the trunk fed by a stout amp! I just don't know the correct size for the rear deck. It whould also be much easier if I could get factory baffles and hangers!
i ran 2 6x9s in the back off an amp with a low-pass filter so only the lows would pass. Needless to say i returned them the next day. You are better off just replacing the components in the front and investing money for a nice sub. Dont waste time on installing 6x9s in the back deck. it rattles a lot more than a sub too.
Oh yeah and some people will aurgue that the back deck is for 6x8s. It is true and false. Ford uses 6x8s and they used a bracket to fit them. if you dont have the audiophile the cutouts are for 6x9s... i installed them myself so i know.
Oh yeah and some people will aurgue that the back deck is for 6x8s. It is true and false. Ford uses 6x8s and they used a bracket to fit them. if you dont have the audiophile the cutouts are for 6x9s... i installed them myself so i know.
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[hr]Thanks man!
[quote author=sternyy link=topic=65624.msg1124668#msg1124668 date=1167408004]
yeah and when you use the 6x9s as full range, your soundstage will be totally messed up. you will hear a lot more coming form the back rather than the front. but to each there own. some people their soundstage like that. its all prefrence
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Sternyy,
Is the wiring already in place? Can speakers simply be added? Can't believe it would be that easy to convert a premium system to an audiophile one.
yeah and when you use the 6x9s as full range, your soundstage will be totally messed up. you will hear a lot more coming form the back rather than the front. but to each there own. some people their soundstage like that. its all prefrence
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Sternyy,
Is the wiring already in place? Can speakers simply be added? Can't believe it would be that easy to convert a premium system to an audiophile one.
Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
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that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol j/k
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
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that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol
j/k
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Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote] I think it's just It's human nature, We don't like limitations. We don't like others telling us what we can't do. It seems that with software the only limitations are those that the programmers have!!! Take a snap shot of life considering the past year and where we have come, WOW!!!
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote] I think it's just It's human nature, We don't like limitations. We don't like others telling us what we can't do. It seems that with software the only limitations are those that the programmers have!!! Take a snap shot of life considering the past year and where we have come, WOW!!!
Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[quote author=sternyy link=topic=65624.msg1125595#msg1125595 date=1167451931]
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote]
that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol j/k
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Sternyy,
It's nice to see that someone who joined this forum in June still participates in it. My main purpose in joining was to learn more about our 2007 SEL AWD Fusion and I certainly have. I am not interested in modifications but find them interesting.
My really big concern is the horrible gas mileage (13.2 and 13.8 in town for the first 500 miles) and if anyone else was having this same experience. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no one seems to be doing as poorly as we are.
The dealer said to bring it back in at 1,500 miles and they would put it on the computer. At this point I am more than a little bit skeptical, but will give the car and the dealer a chance. The EPA rating is 19 mpg in town and that's what I want. We drive conservatively, use the fill-up gallons divided into the miles traveled method to calculate the mpg and the tire pressure is correct.
If more people were having this experience the word would probably get back to Ford and they might have a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for the problem and a fix. We have the only AWD Fusion in town. My gut feeling is that this car is going to remain a gas guzzler, which means I won't keep it very long. Boz
[quote author=sternyy link=topic=65624.msg1125595#msg1125595 date=1167451931]
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote]
that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol
j/k[/quote]
Sternyy,
It's nice to see that someone who joined this forum in June still participates in it. My main purpose in joining was to learn more about our 2007 SEL AWD Fusion and I certainly have. I am not interested in modifications but find them interesting.
My really big concern is the horrible gas mileage (13.2 and 13.8 in town for the first 500 miles) and if anyone else was having this same experience. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no one seems to be doing as poorly as we are.
The dealer said to bring it back in at 1,500 miles and they would put it on the computer. At this point I am more than a little bit skeptical, but will give the car and the dealer a chance. The EPA rating is 19 mpg in town and that's what I want. We drive conservatively, use the fill-up gallons divided into the miles traveled method to calculate the mpg and the tire pressure is correct.
If more people were having this experience the word would probably get back to Ford and they might have a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for the problem and a fix. We have the only AWD Fusion in town. My gut feeling is that this car is going to remain a gas guzzler, which means I won't keep it very long. Boz
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Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[quote author=urnews link=topic=65624.msg1127148#msg1127148 date=1167587432]
[quote author=sternyy link=topic=65624.msg1125595#msg1125595 date=1167451931]
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote]
that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol j/k
[/quote]
Sternyy,
It's nice to see that someone who joined this forum in June still participates in it. My main purpose in joining was to learn more about our 2007 SEL AWD Fusion and I certainly have. I am not interested in modifications but find them interesting.
My really big concern is the horrible gas mileage (13.2 and 13.8 in town for the first 500 miles) and if anyone else was having this same experience. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no one seems to be doing as poorly as we are.
The dealer said to bring it back in at 1,500 miles and they would put it on the computer. At this point I am more than a little bit skeptical, but will give the car and the dealer a chance. The EPA rating is 19 mpg in town and that's what I want. We drive conservatively, use the fill-up gallons divided into the miles traveled method to calculate the mpg and the tire pressure is correct.
If more people were having this experience the word would probably get back to Ford and they might have a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for the problem and a fix. We have the only AWD Fusion in town. My gut feeling is that this car is going to remain a gas guzzler, which means I won't keep it very long. Boz
[/quote] That's outragous, My wife's V-8 explorer gets 16 mpg. you must do alot of idleing. When you stop at the store or, wait out side for someone turn your engine off. It's hard in the winter but, keep a closer eye on your fuel economy in the summer. Summer time will give you a more accurate idea of what your car consumes during driving. I live in the north, in the winter my fuel milage drops by seven mpg on average. I like to warm up before I drive.
[quote author=urnews link=topic=65624.msg1127148#msg1127148 date=1167587432]
[quote author=sternyy link=topic=65624.msg1125595#msg1125595 date=1167451931]
[quote author=otaku link=topic=65624.msg1125572#msg1125572 date=1167451101]
I didn't get the premium either edmunds only gave it a 6.5 anyway so I didn't want to spend 420 on it when I could get something better aftermarket. Really though I could care less I'm not a big audiophile anyway I just want to hear my music and reasonably well the 6disc with satellite is plenty for me
[/quote]
that is what is awsome about these forums... at the end its all what YOU like. you cant force someone to like something because... its what they want. you like the factory radio... kick ass! but i will say a little low end wouldnt help lol
j/k[/quote]
Sternyy,
It's nice to see that someone who joined this forum in June still participates in it. My main purpose in joining was to learn more about our 2007 SEL AWD Fusion and I certainly have. I am not interested in modifications but find them interesting.
My really big concern is the horrible gas mileage (13.2 and 13.8 in town for the first 500 miles) and if anyone else was having this same experience. Fortunately, or unfortunately, no one seems to be doing as poorly as we are.
The dealer said to bring it back in at 1,500 miles and they would put it on the computer. At this point I am more than a little bit skeptical, but will give the car and the dealer a chance. The EPA rating is 19 mpg in town and that's what I want. We drive conservatively, use the fill-up gallons divided into the miles traveled method to calculate the mpg and the tire pressure is correct.
If more people were having this experience the word would probably get back to Ford and they might have a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for the problem and a fix. We have the only AWD Fusion in town. My gut feeling is that this car is going to remain a gas guzzler, which means I won't keep it very long. Boz
[/quote] That's outragous, My wife's V-8 explorer gets 16 mpg. you must do alot of idleing. When you stop at the store or, wait out side for someone turn your engine off. It's hard in the winter but, keep a closer eye on your fuel economy in the summer. Summer time will give you a more accurate idea of what your car consumes during driving. I live in the north, in the winter my fuel milage drops by seven mpg on average. I like to warm up before I drive.
Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[/quote] That's outragous, My wife's V-8 explorer gets 16 mpg. you must do alot of idleing. When you stop at the store or, wait out side for someone turn your engine off. It's hard in the winter but, keep a closer eye on your fuel economy in the summer. Summer time will give you a more accurate idea of what your car consumes during driving. I live in the north, in the winter my fuel milage drops by seven mpg on average. I like to warm up before I drive.
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Outrageous is a good word for it. Nope, we don't have a lot of idling time, the tire pressure is correct and we are both conservative drivers. Yes, I have contributed to thread drift with my posts but the 13 mpg average for the first 500 miles has really upset me. I've been told, and read, that the car needs about 3,000 miles to break in. The dealer has already agreed to put it on the computer at 1,500 miles. The EPA estimate for this vehicle in city driving is 19 mpg and that is what I expect it to do. The 16 mpg on your V8 Explorer (in town?) is greater. There shouldn't be a problem with the V6 AWD getting 19, in my book at least. Time will tell. Boz
[/quote] That's outragous, My wife's V-8 explorer gets 16 mpg. you must do alot of idleing. When you stop at the store or, wait out side for someone turn your engine off. It's hard in the winter but, keep a closer eye on your fuel economy in the summer. Summer time will give you a more accurate idea of what your car consumes during driving. I live in the north, in the winter my fuel milage drops by seven mpg on average. I like to warm up before I drive.
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Outrageous is a good word for it. Nope, we don't have a lot of idling time, the tire pressure is correct and we are both conservative drivers. Yes, I have contributed to thread drift with my posts but the 13 mpg average for the first 500 miles has really upset me. I've been told, and read, that the car needs about 3,000 miles to break in. The dealer has already agreed to put it on the computer at 1,500 miles. The EPA estimate for this vehicle in city driving is 19 mpg and that is what I expect it to do. The 16 mpg on your V8 Explorer (in town?) is greater. There shouldn't be a problem with the V6 AWD getting 19, in my book at least. Time will tell. Boz
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I agree, if that is the difference from front wheel to all wheel drive. Then I don't want one. I would assume that there is a problem. I reset My wife and my MPG at every oil change. 16 MPG is the average on about 4,500 miles. It is a 4.6 V8 whith part time 4X4. I suggest that you start a new thread to see if any other AWD owners are having the same trouble. Please keep me posted.
Re: Premium factory sound system, with empty speaker locations in the back dash
[quote author=furious1auto link=topic=65624.msg1132431#msg1132431 date=1167901351]
I agree, if that is the difference from front wheel to all wheel drive. Then I don't want one. I would assume that there is a problem. I reset My wife and my MPG at every oil change. 16 MPG is the average on about 4,500 miles. It is a 4.6 V8 whith part time 4X4. I suggest that you start a new thread to see if any other AWD owners are having the same trouble. Please keep me posted.
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Furious,
I fully intend to stay on top of this situation because I refuse to accept 13 mpg for a mid-size auto, ANY mid-size. This Fusion is new -- purchased Dec. 4 and only has 700 miles on it -- but 13 mpg out of the box is very disturbing indeed. The EPA estimate for in-city driving is 19 mpg, nothing to write home about but a far cry from 13.
The difference between 13 and 19 mpg is $539.24 a year based on 10,000 miles with gasoline at $2.22. More miles and higher gas prices (likely) increases that "extra" cost. I have much better uses for $539 a year than pouring it into the Fusion's gas tank.
Boz
[quote author=furious1auto link=topic=65624.msg1132431#msg1132431 date=1167901351]
I agree, if that is the difference from front wheel to all wheel drive. Then I don't want one. I would assume that there is a problem. I reset My wife and my MPG at every oil change. 16 MPG is the average on about 4,500 miles. It is a 4.6 V8 whith part time 4X4. I suggest that you start a new thread to see if any other AWD owners are having the same trouble. Please keep me posted.
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Furious,
I fully intend to stay on top of this situation because I refuse to accept 13 mpg for a mid-size auto, ANY mid-size. This Fusion is new -- purchased Dec. 4 and only has 700 miles on it -- but 13 mpg out of the box is very disturbing indeed. The EPA estimate for in-city driving is 19 mpg, nothing to write home about but a far cry from 13.
The difference between 13 and 19 mpg is $539.24 a year based on 10,000 miles with gasoline at $2.22. More miles and higher gas prices (likely) increases that "extra" cost. I have much better uses for $539 a year than pouring it into the Fusion's gas tank.
Boz
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