I wonder how much of a total PAIN that would be to install on the rear bank of the engine, as it sits in there? God that's gotta suck!
LT headers for 3L Duratec
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[quote author=PegAir link=topic=41852.msg617974#msg617974 date=1142373214]
See .. (as I said with excrutiating detail in another post) engineering is a balancing of goals. Having higher horse power numbers is something car companies really want. So if headers would do this much good they would already have them on the car .. except that Ford decided doing so would ... ??
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Ford has to pass federal emission and sound laws before putting a car into production. Headers from the factory would cause the car to fail both of those tests. Headers increase exhaust flow which increase's horsepower and lowering exhuast backpressure.
Are headers worth it? Fuck yes
Look what ford gives us from the factory. Do you think that's good for power production?
I count 2 pups cats and 2 main cats. 4 cat converters in all.
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See .. (as I said with excrutiating detail in another post) engineering is a balancing of goals. Having higher horse power numbers is something car companies really want. So if headers would do this much good they would already have them on the car .. except that Ford decided doing so would ... ??
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Ford has to pass federal emission and sound laws before putting a car into production. Headers from the factory would cause the car to fail both of those tests. Headers increase exhaust flow which increase's horsepower and lowering exhuast backpressure.
Are headers worth it? Fuck yes
Look what ford gives us from the factory. Do you think that's good for power production?
I count 2 pups cats and 2 main cats. 4 cat converters in all.
[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=41852.msg618078#msg618078 date=1142377435]
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg617890#msg617890 date=1142370551]
Alittle update from CPE about the headers. They WILL fit a fusion BUT you have to change to an 05 Mazda 6 Oil pan and pickup. :klavergreg:
Car part.com has 05 Oil pans for 100 dollars.
[/quote]'Eh, screw that...
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Too much work for ya swoop?
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg617890#msg617890 date=1142370551]
Alittle update from CPE about the headers. They WILL fit a fusion BUT you have to change to an 05 Mazda 6 Oil pan and pickup. :klavergreg:
Car part.com has 05 Oil pans for 100 dollars.
[/quote]'Eh, screw that...
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Too much work for ya swoop?
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg618199#msg618199 date=1142382492]
[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=41852.msg618078#msg618078 date=1142377435]
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg617890#msg617890 date=1142370551]
Alittle update from CPE about the headers. They WILL fit a fusion BUT you have to change to an 05 Mazda 6 Oil pan and pickup. :klavergreg:
Car part.com has 05 Oil pans for 100 dollars.
[/quote]'Eh, screw that...
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Too much work for ya swoop?
[/quote]Hah, heck yeah -- not to mention warranty [possible] issues, ya know? But...Ford is Mazda, Mazda is Ford, but I am sure they would screw me anyway they could...right? Haha.
[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=41852.msg618078#msg618078 date=1142377435]
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg617890#msg617890 date=1142370551]
Alittle update from CPE about the headers. They WILL fit a fusion BUT you have to change to an 05 Mazda 6 Oil pan and pickup. :klavergreg:
Car part.com has 05 Oil pans for 100 dollars.
[/quote]'Eh, screw that...
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Too much work for ya swoop?
[/quote]Hah, heck yeah -- not to mention warranty [possible] issues, ya know? But...Ford is Mazda, Mazda is Ford, but I am sure they would screw me anyway they could...right? Haha.
[quote author=UtOhCop link=topic=41852.msg620946#msg620946 date=1142538277]
Well i'm taking the plunge. I'm ordering a set along with the MAF kit. A 40 wheel horsepower increase with Headers/Maf would be great.
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Let us know how it works out! Would be great if you could dyno!
I think the Fusion has better HP than then Mazda-6, yes? So you might not see as much as 40 more.
Also the curve only starts at 3,500, and it HINTS that your torque/hp below 3000 is lower than stock. Most of my acceleration runs (day to day driving) go from 2000 to 3500, so I worry I would see less performaance with this kit on the car.
Well i'm taking the plunge. I'm ordering a set along with the MAF kit. A 40 wheel horsepower increase with Headers/Maf would be great.
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Let us know how it works out!
Would be great if you could dyno! I think the Fusion has better HP than then Mazda-6, yes? So you might not see as much as 40 more.
Also the curve only starts at 3,500, and it HINTS that your torque/hp below 3000 is lower than stock. Most of my acceleration runs (day to day driving) go from 2000 to 3500, so I worry I would see less performaance with this kit on the car.
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