Talked with Turbonetics today and they are trying to see if there is interest in the development of a bolt on turbo system for the V6 Fusion. Please leave your feedback as they will be checking this poll.
This guy helped get a turbonetics kit made for the QR25 powered Sentras. (I'm txspeccer over at b15sentra.net). That's about to come to fruition and is a quality kit from the looks of it.
My biggest concern will be the long term reliabilty/ drivability of the kit. I personally would prefer remote mounting option (putting turbo after headers in the exhaust before the Y-pipe). That means that the kit will be very similar between I4s and V6s since the piping will be very similar.
I would go after low boost (5 psi) with very small turbo and very low lag. I don't want to upgrade any engine/trans components. I will be happy for 50-75 whp extra. I don't want the best performing tubo setup; just one that gives the car more power. I would need this kit to increase torque in 2000-4000 rpm range the most; and not worry about top end power. I need most of my power around town and not at the drag strip. I think the kit needs to emphasize bang for the buck. Get me as much performance as possible for my $$.
BTW I voted for "intrested but only if the price is right."
pkoko brings up a good point, that would probably save production cost for the company making it compatible for both the i4 and v6. ya, i guess im not looking for any crazy horsepower gains, just something to get up and go.
I have never looked at turbo's, probably because I never owned a car that was good enough that deserved one. So how much would a small turbo kit cost?
Thank you for the kind words so far Right now the discussion is for the V6 version but based on the feedback here both kits may be made. Right now Turbonetics is estimating a price of $4500-5000 please vote based on that. Yes I did work with Turbonetics to make the Spec V kit a reality and it is a quality kit. Turbonetics is looking strongly into the Fusion community but they need to see the interest here. Please cast your votes and spread the word.
[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=84078.msg1579701#msg1579701 date=1185244803]
I have never looked at turbo's, probably because I never owned a car that was good enough that deserved one. So how much would a small turbo kit cost?[/quote]
The below costs are my estimates from looking at internet forms.
The cost of the actual turbo or headunit ranges from $500-1500. In addition to that the cost of a intercooler of $500-1000. Additional piping runs around $1500-2500 installed. Plus tunning around $1000. So all in all the whole thing costs around $3.5k-6K installed depending on the installer and difficulty of work.
Regardless of what those above costs are; the cost of the turbo head is not more than 30% the cost of the entire project. That is why I reccomend that the builder who makes this kit plan their parts to give us the best bang for the buck. At low boosts; an intelcooler is not necessary. That will reduce the cost of the kit and make piping easier. An added bonus is that install will be easier. I would make the intercooler an option for extra performance. Again, make the kit for those who want a little more power around town and not at the drag strip.
IMHO, any more power past 75 more whp, or 275 whp(assuming stock puts 200 whp) total, will cost a lot more than bigger turbo. It will cost bigger intercooler if that. It will need upgraded engine internals. It will also require transmission upgrades. Those ugrades alone cost another $3k or so. I don't think that is worth the extra power even it is another 50-100 more whp to a total of 325-375 whp. Besides with that much power; welcome to torque-steering tire spin city. Our drag strip times will not even be all that better. I doubt any of that power can be put on the ground in a consistent basis.
EDIT: I just saw the estimated price of $4.5-5K + install. Install at most decent shops is easily another $1-1.5K. That is a little more $$ that I am willing to consider. I have couple of questions:
Any word on remote mounting?
Does this kit use turbo + intercooler?? If so how much approximate boost and extra hp?
Does this kit come in 2 versions such as low boost completely stock car & hi-performance version?
Any way to avoid the intercooler? That will save tons in piping and $$ cost. Anyway make the intercooler optional?
I don't like the Idea of a turbo on a v6, I'd want to run two and that would cost to much, make too much power for the stock short block of the v6 and the tranny. I'd want a super charger for that. A turbo for the I4 would be better off making around 6-8PSI, nothing outragous, then like others have said have a stage 2 option with an intercooler. I'd hope for at least 200Hp and not more the 230HP flywheel on the I4.
I voted for the "intervested based off price" poll.
[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=84078.msg1586556#msg1586556 date=1185410953]
Ok, how about forget the turbo's. Supercharger the thing! Way easier!
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They can use the engine oil for lubrication. What you are thinking about is called and air-to-water intercooler and it uses the engines cooling system to cool the intake charge.
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