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The H&R springs arived last week and I finally had a few hours to install them today. Total time from start to finish was 3.75 hours. The first spring on each end took a little longer just to figure out what needed to be unbolted to install but once that was done the other side took only half the time. Ride quality is a little sharper than stock but certainly not as bad as the other two cars. Scheduled for an alignment tomorrow.http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=3/6520093568.jpg&s=x10
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That looks very nice! What size Rims are those? How is the difference in the ride quality now(be honest)? If you are single or dont drive far distance its cool! But you know once you get kids and have to drive for a while; quality means a lot on the ride..
 

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That looks very nice! What size Rims are those? How is the difference in the ride quality now(be honest)? If you are single or dont drive far distance its cool! But you know once you get kids and have to drive for a while; quality means a lot on the ride..
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The rims are 17's and light weight, so their is a little more road noise now than with the stockers. I can drop the air pressure and it will take out some of the noise but the steering wants to grab in ruts. The ride quality with the springs is more harsh than stock, I'm sure their isn't a performance spring out there that won't change the dynamics but thats the trade off. Long trips shouldn't be a problem with higher speeds allowing struts to do the work rather than the car pitching at lower speeds. My 47 year old wifes car is Supercharged Miata which is small light and lets you feel everything in the road, my 79 Vette runs a C4 suspension I installed 2 years ago. With that car I can run over a quarter and tell you which side is up so comparitively speaking the Fusion floats, but for a family it may be a little too rough. I would suggest that if your looking for the same ride quality but a lower stance have the stock springs cut 1.5 turns. :cheers:
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Just a 43 year old kid.
 

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looks really nice i am hoping to do the same thing hear soon, but i have a few questions

how wide are your rims?, what size tires are you using? and did you need wheel spacers?
 

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[quote author=krazykyle83 link=topic=41579.msg609962#msg609962 date=1141863366]
looks really nice i am hoping to do the same thing hear soon, but i have a few questions

how wide are your rims?, what size tires are you using? and did you need wheel spacers?
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The wheels are Falken 17 X 7 with a 42mm offset, tires are 225/50/17 with no wheel spacers. I had thought about getting those from H&R but after installing the springs there isn't much room for spacers between the fender opening and the tire.
 

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Hey thanks for telling us the info on the offset and the springs. I want to do a bunch of things to my fusion when i get it. I m also glad that im not the only over 40 enthusiast(41) in the club. lol
 

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Can you get a picutre of the strut that is over the top of the tire? I had concerns about that when dropping the car. How much clearance do you have?
 

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Can you get a picutre of the strut that is over the top of the tire?  I had concerns about that when dropping the car.  How much clearance do you have?
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Ahh, Swoop I know which strut your concerned with, it looks actually to be a sort of upper control arm if it's the curved one your speaking of. The clearance will remain the same regardless of lowering the suspension because it's connected via pivot joints. However it will keep a selection of tire sizes to a minimum, clearance on the inside of the tire with a 7"wide wheel is at 2". The pivot ball located at the top of that strut has a kastle nut on the bottom and with a 225/50/17 tire which is around 26" tall there is 1.5" clearance from tire to nut. I've read other post about 8 inch wide wheels, as they widen the wheel they would need to reduce the amount of backspacing from 42mm closer to 40mm or prehaps into the high 30's in order to push the wheel out from the strut but too far out there will be a clearance problem with the fender. Hope some of this helps,
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Can you post some pics of your car? I'm actually looking to do the exact same thing with the H&R/Falken wheels.
 

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Can you post some pics of your car? I'm actually looking to do the exact same thing with the H&R/Falken wheels.
[/quote]Read his post, click the links for pics, bro.
 

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Where did you buy your springs at and for how much?
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I bought the kit from The Tire Rack, they carry both Eibach and H&R, I went with the H&R springs for $237.00. I did the install myself as well as the alignment, not to hard at all. :cheers:
 

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[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=41579.msg613547#msg613547 date=1142030198]
[quote author=Showtime link=topic=41579.msg612711#msg612711 date=1142006303]
Can you post some pics of your car? I'm actually looking to do the exact same thing with the H&R/Falken wheels.
[/quote]Read his post, click the links for pics, bro.
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Oops, that's what happens when you post after you get back from the airport and had a few too many on the flight. :cheers:
 

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Did you remember to torque all of the bushings at a neutral ride height? The lower front shock bushing especially will add a lot of harshness if it is tightened while the car is still in the air.

Actually if the car is substantially lower, you should re-neutralize all the bushings in the suspension to keep them from "pre-winding" and adding suspension rate and reducing their life.
 

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[quote author=Waldo link=topic=41579.msg621899#msg621899 date=1142604031]
Did you remember to torque all of the bushings at a neutral ride height?  The lower front shock bushing especially will add a lot of harshness if it is tightened while the car is still in the air.

Actually if the car is substantially lower, you should re-neutralize all the bushings in the suspension to keep them from "pre-winding" and adding suspension rate and reducing their life.
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Actually the Front end was a no brainer, the springs went in and required no adjustment to the camber settings from stock -.25 degrees to -50 degrees lowered and 0 tow. The back was a differnt story, factory settings were all screwed up, left rear was -1.0 degree camber and +.25 degrees tow out while the right rear was -1.5 degrees camber and + 1.0 degrees tow out. Once the springs were installed things got worse, left rear went to -3.0 camber and +1.0 degrees tow out and the right rear went to -3.0 degrees camber and +2.5 degrees tow out. Slightly crabbing and very twitchy with road ruts. But the first stab at alignment was to releave the winding once the car was jacked up and the rear axle at full droop, just lossening the camber bolts and allowing it to un-wind brought the camber into a good performance setting of -1.5 degrees. Tow out required close to about 4 full turns in for the right side and 1 full turn in on the left which is now set to +.25 degrees out. I run the same settings on my Vette and seems to be a good compromise for performance and street manners. And hell look at the money I saved, just required a little reading. :goodjob:
 

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i have 225/35r20 and it looks great if you get the 225/30r20 your tires would look really weird since the tread width would be smaller than the rim so it will look like you have those LOW rider tires on your car..eww
 

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  This thread is the greatest! I will have this for breakfast, lunch and dinner! :D
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It's certainly gotten away from the original intent. Oh well, pimp my ride I guess.
 

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Confusion is fast becoming a Fusion legend.....
 
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