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did I read somewhere that Ford now is putting spin-on filters on the I4 engine? If so, when was the date of conversion. I'm looking at one, but don't want the cartridge type. Anyone have this information?
 

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[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1524531#msg1524531 date=1183054557]
...but don't want the cartridge type. [/quote]Why?
I have the cartridge type and it is no harder to change than a spin on. It's no big deal.
 

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in case you didn't know, there are big problems being associated with this type. do a search.
 

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No big problems. Purolator had an issue with the cartridge twisting, but according to there research it did not affect performance and they have corrected it. That's the only issue other then it is a little bit of a PIA to drain the cartridge and replace the "o" rings rather than just spinning off/on a a canister type filter.
 

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I don't know the specifics, but I think it was a big enough problem that ford switched to spin-on. At least that is what I read. That's why I started this thread, to find out. Not to hear how good they are, but to find out if they did change it and when.
 

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Not another "OMG THE CARTRIDGE FILTER ONOES" thread.

The cartridge is easy. Jack up the car, remove the cartridge housing cap, remove the filter, put new filter in, replace big gasket, put cap back on, drain oil, fill crankcase. No problem. This process takes 12-15 minutes top. The cartridge should not be intimidating...it's real easy.

BTW, I am not sure about the spin on change. I'd email Ford. Perhaps you can find your answer through a customer service rep.
 

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it's not that i'm intimidated by it, I want the latest. and if they did switch to spin-on, that's what I want. cartridges imo, are for motorcycles as far as i've seen.
 

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[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1525239#msg1525239 date=1183066467]
I don't know the specifics, but I think it was a big enough problem that ford switched to spin-on. At least that is what I read. That's why I started this thread, to find out. Not to hear how good they are, but to find out if they did change it and when.
[/quote]Whatever makes you feel better. 8)



Much ado about nothing. :shock:
 

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well, doesn't matter anyways. I test drove an SE I4 tonight. There is no way I could downgrade myself for this. The thing just wouldn't get going compared to the 3.0. I am now looking at a new silver SE V6.
 

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[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1526416#msg1526416 date=1183091390]
There is no way I could downgrade myself for this. [/quote]
You're right. You're much too good to stoop down to that level.
 

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[quote author=Total ConFUSION link=topic=81779.msg1527899#msg1527899 date=1183143690]
[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1526416#msg1526416 date=1183091390]
There is no way I could downgrade myself for this. [/quote]
You're right. You're much too good to stoop down to that level.
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I was talking about going from the seamless power delivery of the 3.0 to the opposite in the I4. I'm sure the I4 is a great engine. I'm just used to the 3.0 and according to the computer in all three cars, my V6, the V6 I'm picking up tomorrow, and the I4 I drove first- the city mileage was the same. Nothing personal was meant towards I4 owners. It's just that I want more power than what I felt during the test drive. Maybe if you drove a 3.0 you would feel the same. The price difference between the SE I4 with moonroof and the same car w/out moonroof but with V6 is only $1000. Totally worth it when you look at what you're getting- the 6-speed and the 3.0 V6. No brainer to me.
 

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[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1528980#msg1528980 date=1183181365]
[quote author=Total ConFUSION link=topic=81779.msg1527899#msg1527899 date=1183143690]
[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1526416#msg1526416 date=1183091390]
There is no way I could downgrade myself for this. [/quote]
You're right. You're much too good to stoop down to that level.
[/quote]Maybe if you drove a 3.0 you would feel the same. [/quote]
I drove both the I4 and the V6 when I bought my I4. I couldn't feel that much of a difference. Especially not a $1700 difference which is how much more the V6 would have cost me.
 

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[quote author=Total ConFUSION link=topic=81779.msg1530032#msg1530032 date=1183250530]
[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1528980#msg1528980 date=1183181365]
[quote author=Total ConFUSION link=topic=81779.msg1527899#msg1527899 date=1183143690]
[quote author=iowaguy link=topic=81779.msg1526416#msg1526416 date=1183091390]
There is no way I could downgrade myself for this. [/quote]
You're right. You're much too good to stoop down to that level.
[/quote]Maybe if you drove a 3.0 you would feel the same. [/quote]
I drove both the I4 and the V6 when I bought my I4. I couldn't feel that much of a difference. Especially not a $1700 difference which is how much more the V6 would have cost me.
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you do realize there is like 65 more horsepower with the 3.0 compared to the 2.3? I know you like your 2.3, but to say you "couldn't feel that much of a difference" is pushing it imo. I've had two 3.0's, the one I traded and the one I just bought. I drove the I4, trust me, there is NIGHT and DAY difference in a huge way. The 3.0 is loaded with power everywhere where the I4, the one I drove anyways, just revved up and didn't really do anything. The 3.0 otoh, will throw you in your seat. Not dissing the 2.3 as I have an '84 RS Turbo Capri with a 2.3 turbo in it (only 145 horse, 180 lb/ft torque), but the 3.0 is making nearly as much power as an early 90's HO 302 Mustang. It was worth it to me to remain with the 3.0. I'm glad you like your 2.3 and as I've said before, I'm sure it's bulletproof.
 

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The bottom line is that weather its a 4, 6, or 8 cylinder, they are made to appeal different audiences. If you like the way a car looks and want the best fuel economy, get a 4 cyl. If want more hp and a possible more sportier appearance, get a 6 cyl. If you are a speed freak who likes to burn out and race and don't give a damn about the fuel economy, get an 8 cyl. So, Iowaguy fits the upper categories. I am an I4 guy because I like the look of the Fusion. I will get the CAI and add more hp and better fuel economy at the same time. I like to drive 30 mph in the city so people will see that it is me driving that nice ass car and not have to burn a lot of gas doing it. :lol: And now that I got my 20's, :smokin: :banana: :bananadance: :rsx_r04: :irock: .
 

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...now that you "got your 20s", your car will be even slower, and your mileage worse.......
 

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How would the car be slower? Actually it will be going faster with the bigger wheels. It may be slower pulling off and use a little more gas to get the heavier tires rolling, but I will still get better mileage than a SEL. 8) I will sacrafice a slight drop in fuel economy to make my car look the way I want it to look.
 

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I'm guessing your 20 combo will be heavier than the stock 16s. Heavier combo on the drive wheels = slower acceleration (typically).
 

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Well, of course, but I am not the rabbit at the starting line. So quick acceleration is not a must for me.
 

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Cartridge oil filter change:

1) Remove retaining screw with allen wrench; 2) let residual oil drain; 3) remove the cartridge housing cap with special tool, and let additional residual oil drain while holding it over the drain pan (wear a glove the oil's hot); 4) remove the filter 5) Put new filter in 6) Replace big O-ring; 7) Replace small O-ring 8) Screw the cap back on; 9) Put allen screw back in

Spin-on filter change:

1) Loosen old filter and let drain; 2) spin off 3) coat new gasket with oil 4) spin on

4 steps vs. 9 steps, with less clean up. Hmmmmm - I'll take the spin-on any day.

T
 
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