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I have a 2007 Fusion SEL and I just purchased HIDs for my car from www.hid.vg. My problem is that if i wanted to turn on my HIDs while driving down the road, my HIDs start to flicker. If I turn on my HIDs first then start my car and drive down the road they are fine. I dont want to drive around with my HIDs on during the day if i dont have to. I know this sounds very confusiong because trust me im lost. I called the company and explain to them the problem and they said i need to find the daytime running light fuse and pull it. Well the problem is that i cant find the fuse anywhere. Its not listed in the owners manual or anything. I dont understand why my lights work fine at night but they flicker when i want to turn them on during the day. Can anyone give my some input or help me accomplish this? I would great appreciate it!


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[quote author=fordfusion07 link=topic=75081.msg1347598#msg1347598 date=1176931616]
I have a 2007 Fusion SEL and I just purchased HIDs for my car from www.hid.vg. My problem is that if i wanted to turn on my HIDs while driving down the road, my HIDs start to flicker. If I turn on my HIDs first then start my car and drive down the road they are fine. I dont want to drive around with my HIDs on during the day if i dont have to. I know this sounds very confusiong because trust me im lost. I called the company and explain to them the problem and they said i need to find the daytime running light fuse and pull it. Well the problem is that i cant find the fuse anywhere. Its not listed in the owners manual or anything. I dont understand why my lights work fine at night but they flicker when i want to turn them on during the day. Can anyone give my some input or help me accomplish this? I would great appreciate it!

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Hi fordfusion07! :D As to why they are flickering (if they are installed correctly and not defective), my educated guess would be it is due to the fact that the Daytime Running Lights operate at a lower power output than when the headlights are turned on. Therefore, your HID's are not receiving enough power to operate correctly when in DRL mode, and flickering. When you turn them on first, then start the car during daylight hours, they are receiving full power, and not flickering.

As to the correct fuse to disable the DRL's, I checked my manual (MKZ), and could not find a fuse labeled for the DRL's in there either. I am sure someone here has discovered the correct info, and will weigh in shortly. If not, you may need to ask the Service Manager at your Dealer for that info. I am sure they can provide that for you.

Good luck! :cheers:
 

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See what I dont understand is that if i start my car at night then turn on the headlights they flicker too. If i were to turn on the headlights first then start my car it works fine no problem! IM SO LOST AND CONFUSED!
 

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[quote author=fordfusion07 link=topic=75081.msg1348489#msg1348489 date=1176946853]
See what I dont understand is that if i start my car at night then turn on the headlights they flicker too. If i were to turn on the headlights first then start my car it works fine no problem! IM SO LOST AND CONFUSED!
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Hi again fordfusion07. :wavey: I am not an automotive electrical specialist, but this would seem to point to a problem other than DRL compatibility. The company you purchased them from should have some expertise in this sort of problem. I would think that it could possibly be an installation problem, defective equipment, or just plain application incompatibility? Are these HID's guaranteed by the manufacturer to be compatible with the Fusion?

I seem to recall another forum member posting about a similar problem with ignition on/off flickering. Have you tried to search for this type of problem in previous posts?

Hopefully one of our members with experience in this type of aftermarket HID installation will jump in with some advice?

Good luck! :cheers:
 

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Hey... as far as flickering goes... well, you have found the solution as to how to get around the flickering. Why they flicker? Well, it seems that HIDs from certain companies will flicker when they are cold at start, and others won't flicker... :dunno:

How to get rid of the DRL... you can try going to your ford dealer and tell them that you don't want them and should be able to disable them.... I say at least give it a try.

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Look at your manual. Theres a section on how to disable.
 

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There is no fuse. That feature is programmed into the smart junction box from the factory. I would think that it should be able to be programmed out by the dealer.
 

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When they flicker, is it when the vehicle wasnt on for more then 6hrs, and when they flicker whats your usual temperature on your location?

Because one of the major causes of HIDs flickering is outside temperature. If its cold outside, then there is a chance of flickering lights. Because your ballast is not up to temperature and needs all the quick power to ignite your lights and have them to temperature rite away. Fusions dont have daylight runing lights. Not that I know off.

So next time this happens, before you turn on the car, first turn on your lights for 5 to 10 seconds then turn on the car and you will be fine.

So dont worry there is no biggie if you are on a cold surrounding.
 

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Well heres the thing... I found out that i dont have daytime running lights. I thought i did but i was obviously wrong. I noticed that even if the car was up to temperature and say i wanted to turn on my HIDs while driving down the road they still flicker. I was told to put a relay in and that should solve my problem. I hope this takes care but i wish i had an electrical schematic of my car. Does anyone have any ideas or thoughts??
 

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[quote author=ciscoford23 link=topic=75081.msg1410715#msg1410715 date=1179204392]
There is no fuse. That feature is programmed into the smart junction box from the factory. I would think that it should be able to be programmed out by the dealer.
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The first two statements are correct. The SJB is also called the GEM (Generic Electronics Module). Each field in Ford module configuration specifications includes a flag called 'customer preference'. The dealers are not supposed to be able to reconfigure fields where 'customer preference' is 'no' and I am pretty sure that the DRL field is a 'no'. That doesn't mean that it is impossible, it just means that the dealer tools aren't supposed to allow it. If you PM me your VIN, I can double check your factory configuration.

On vehicles where both DRL and HID are optional, it is VERY IMPORTANT to have compatible configurations (i.e. no DRL & HID, or DRL & no HID). If you have an SJB/GEM configured for DRL and HID, the net effect is cycling power to the ballast at a rate which would be appropriate for testing the HID durability but which will drastically reduce the lifetime of the HID components. :shock: Granted, this applies for factory equipped HIDs. It is possible that this is not the issue with your aftermarket installation--that would depend on the wiring and components.
 

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Wow that is very helpful. I installed my HIDs today and ended up having to put wire in a relay for each headlight. Everything works fine EXCEPT that the message center constantly says "check right headlight" "check left headlight". I found that if i hit reset it goes away. So I thought my problem was solved. But NOOOO not that easy. After 10-15 minutes it came back on. So i have to hit reset each time it comes on. Is there a way to correct this or does it pretty much mean that my does not want HIDs. Could anyone help me out with my problem?
 

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Another cause could be that they gave you a bad system (igniters and ballst). Tell them to replace it. You dont want to mess around with your vehicles equipment for one set of lights. The HID's should be a simple plug N play system. Shouldnt be a hassle of relays or playn with the system. Just get your money back and go to XenonPros.com and stick with known brands.
 

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does xenonexpert.com not have a by-pass kit for the Ford Fusion? There has got to be a way of disconnecting the DRL from our Canadaian Domestic Market cars. This has got me freaking mad about having DRL and not being able to get HID'S working correctly. :?
 
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