I have the Michelin Piolots on my SEL, so far so good, I hope they last thru my lease (30K more)...
I think the ride is a bit rough :shock:, although handling makes up for it...
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Meh, I don't know. I can do burnouts now when the road is wet though. So if that is any sign of wear.
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I did a burnout after 1K miles with my Michelins, a little water, and a very heavy foot (man, that was a lot of smoke). In all actuallity, I've been getting great traction in and out of the rain.
Well then I'm relieved. My last truck's tires were so old and bald that the road could be pristene and I would just try to go and bam, burnout. And when it rained, well I couldn't even drive in the rain because alls I did was fishtail the whole time, so I would drift.
Mine came with Continental ContiProContact. They're pretty damn good in the rain. I haven't driven in the snow with them yet, but I'm not that worried about it. I'll drive my 4x4 truck through the winter.
I think the 16" Continentals SUCK in the snow, not good at all. I got some Michelin X-Ice snow tires, hell of a difference!!!!!! May have cost $450, but so do a couple of towing bills over a winter.
Good move. What size X-Ice did ya get? How are they in the dry compared to the Contis? Quiet at highway speed? I had a set of Yokahama K2 on the front of my old Escort - they were very squrimy in the dry but fantastic in the snow, especially deep snow, which is all that matters when the plow hasn't come through and it's time to go to work! 8)
For my Fusion I almost bought the Michelin X-Ice but found a great deal on Hankook performance snows (W300): $330 OTD for four 205/60-16.
Good move. What size X-Ice did ya get? How are they in the dry compared to the Contis? Quiet at highway speed? I had a set of Yokahama K2 on the front of my old Escort - they were very squrimy in the dry but fantastic in the snow, especially deep snow, which is all that matters when the plow hasn't come through and it's time to go to work! 8)
For my Fusion I almost bought the Michelin X-Ice but found a great deal on Hankook performance snows (W300): $330 OTD for four 205/60-16.
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I used the same size, and NO problem on dry pavement. They are GREAT on both dry and snow. They may be a bit louder on dry pavement, but mot noticable too much...
I'd highly recommend anybody in snowy regions to dump their Conti's ASAP. New they are adequate, only helped out by how well the car handles. A bit worn and there is ZERO tred on these tires, they wear to a ribbed tire. $4-500 on a set of tires is cheaper than a wreck. I managed to score a set of Hankooks for free. Even at 1/2 tread left, I drove them in snow and they were better than the Conti's when they were new.
A very telling report on tires, your link. You would think that FoMoCo would have researched the various tire brands before deciding on which tires to shod the Fusion, especially after the Firestone-Explorer fiasco that cost the company millions and even more in the long run because of the adverse media publicity.
The Michelin Pilots that came on our 2007 SEL AWD did so poorly in the ratings. That's a shame. Personally, I've always been a fan of Goodyear RS Eagles. It's odd that the ratings you provided contained no Goodyear tires. I'm sure they make 50R 17-inch tires.
Given the cost, I'm sure we will be shopping around when it comes time to replace the Pilots.
Most mfrs (including Toyota and Honda) choose tires that don't rank well.
As for your Goodyear RS, do you mean the RS-A? If so those rank very poorly! They also have poor treadlife and much to the chagrin of enthusiasts they've been OEM on many many models and for way to many yrs - this tire is very old by today's standard and was never good in the first place.
I have the 17" Michlin pilots and hate them-the rear slides in turns-won't grip in even light snow--Wife hates them-won't grip in the wet-noisy. She wants me to see about getting general exclaim uhp like on my Mustang--great grip in the wet and dry-Won't wear as long as the pilots-but the harder the rubber the worst the grip--and will far out handle the pilots. I have 8000 miles on them.
Goodyear RSA's are terrible. They came on a couple of other cars I had including the Focus .No grip,no nothing. I have been dealing with the www.tirerack.com for many years. Their reports are really very accurate.
I can't tell if the tires are making the car feel darty or not but I will have Ford check it at the first service. In the wet the Michelins are not impressive.
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Most mfrs (including Toyota and Honda) choose tires that don't rank well.
As for your Goodyear RS, do you mean the RS-A? If so those rank very poorly! They also have poor treadlife and much to the chagrin of enthusiasts they've been OEM on many many models and for way to many yrs - this tire is very old by today's standard and was never good in the first place.
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Cos,
Yes, I meant RS-A's -- standard equipment on our 2000 Focus station wagon (larger size) -- and even more surprised by the survey results. Someone else posting survey results on the Michelin Pilots and that was even more surprising, and worse.
The Focus is on its second set of Eagle RS-A's but has 93,000 miles on it. I will be doing some Internet research before I buy another set of tires. However, my Goodyear dealer, Grier Tire in Salisbury, MD, is one top-notch place to do business and that is a factor when making any purchase.
I wonder why these surveys never include ratings on tires from Pep Boys, Auto Zone, Sears, Wal-Mart? Foolish me, I thought I was really getting a good deal since the SEL Fusion came with the Michelin Pilots. Now I am disappointed. Oh well, just another bubble burst I guess. Still makes me a little angry though that for a MSRP of $27,105 that the SEL AWD doesn't have better rubber.
I used to be a big fan of Firestone tires but the Firestone/Explorer fiasco tainted my viewpoint. I guess the bottom line is that each manufacturer produces winners and losers, that you have to buy according to model and what kind of driving you are going to do most.
The RS-A's that came on my wife's Focus were junk too and I could not wait to replace them. That was at about 12,xxx miles too. I used tirerack.com, which I have used a lot in the past for the replacements on the car. There site and feedback has always been very helpful.
The best tire that I have found for the price has been the Yokohama Avid series. This is for all-seasons use though.
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