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Hi all...just got a set of H9's (65W/2100 lumens) from Autobarn...Sylvania's (made in Germany) for @ $10 a pop. The bulb is totally clear.


There are 2 areas that need to be modified for them to be installed. There are 3 metal tangs around the base of the bulb that hold it into the foglamp housing. Looking at the bulb (facing you) with the connector @ 6:00...the 3 tangs are at 7-12-5:00 positions. The 12:00 needs to be moded...if you compare the H9 to the H11...you'll see the difference. I used yellow aviation snips & a flat jewelers file to do this.

The other mod is the plastic connector in the bulb. The H11 has 1 'rib' (murphy proof provision) & the H9 has two...you'll need to remove the smaller rib in the bulb connector to allow the male wired connector to slide in easily. I used a small wire cutter to snip it out , then filed to fit a smooth finish.

Otherwise they went rite in. I did remove the 1st foglamp from the car to do this...modded the 2nd bulb & it went rite in the passenger side housing without removing it. FYI...the foglamp housing has a set of 'lids' on the inside ...about a 3/16" horizantal 'slot' for the lite to go threw which gives you a flat but wide illumination. Anyway...they are noticably brighter then the H11's (55W/1300 lumens)...will do some height adjusting this weekend to extend the lite length...weather permitting. Am also considering a 'lid' mod at sum point to allow more lite to 'escape' for better illumination....closer to a 'driving lite' than a foglite.
 

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Re: H9 FOGLITE INSTALL

Awesome. The modification needed sounds VERY much like that needed when fitting a 9006 into a Ford Ranger foglight hole that normally accepts an 893. Sweet. I must do this, but I find no time.
 

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Hi swoop1156 & Jaysen...THANX!!!! So far all is well...checked wire/connector after @hr+ on @60 degree ambient temp...not even warm. Readjusted @ 1" up...definately extends the beam further with improved illumination & no 'issues' from oncuming motorists.
For the heck of it...pulled one out & stuck it in the low beam...plugged rite in & looked way brighter...sooo.....ordered another set to mod for a H11 to H9 lowbeam upgrade....we'll see if motorist accept this mod? Also purchased a set of Sylv SilvStar H7's for hibeams...major improvement in illumnation......as i am in my mid 50's...need all the lite @ nite i can get.
 

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Re: H9 FOGLITE INSTALL

I remember doing a similar mod on my Contour. I used the upgraded fog bulbs which required no retrofit and also put high beam bulbs in the low beam socket.

That required the filing of the single tab. I recall the only difference being the silver paint on the tip of the bulb. Since there is a reflector in front of the low beam bulb anyway, it should pose no issues for oncoming motorists as long as you don't adjust the beam height.

Is the height of the fog lights on a Milan also adjustable? I'll check next time I'm under there doing an oil change.
 

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Re: H9 FOGLITE INSTALL

[quote author=SGs Fuzion link=topic=66139.msg1134171#msg1134171 date=1168000396]
Hi all...just got a set of H9's (65W/2100 lumens) from Autobarn...Sylvania's (made in Germany) for @ $10 a pop. The bulb is totally clear. There are 2 areas that need to be modified for them to be installed. Unfortunately i have no pix of this. There are 3 metal tangs around the base of the bulb that hold it into the foglamp housing. Looking at the bulb (facing you) with the connector @ 6:00...the 3 tangs are at 7-12-5:00 positions. The 12:00 needs to be moded...if you compare the H9 to the H11...you'll see the difference. I used yellow aviation snips & a flat jewelers file to do this. The other mod is the plastic connector in the bulb. The H11 has 1 'rib' (murphy proof provision) & the H9 has two...you'll need to remove the smaller rib in the bulb connector to allow the male wired connector to slide in easily. I used a small wire cutter to snip it out , then filed to fit a smooth finish. Otherwise they went rite in. I did remove the 1st foglamp from the car to do this...modded the 2nd bulb & it went rite in the passenger side housing without removing it. FYI...the foglamp housing has a set of 'lids' on the inside ...about a 3/16" horizantal 'slot' for the lite to go threw which gives you a flat but wide illumination. Anyway...they are noticably brighter then the H11's (55W/1300 lumens)...will do some height adjusting this weekend to extend the lite length...weather permitting. Am also considering a 'lid' mod at sum point to allow more lite to 'escape' for better illumination....closer to a 'driving lite' than a foglite.
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Re: H9 FOGLITE INSTALL

Hi Cueball...so far so good with the foglite upgrade from H11's to H9's...i can only 'presume' that the Milan foglite setup is the same as the Fusion...a 7MM nutdriver to remove 3-4 splashgard fasteners underneath and a T15 torx for lite adjustment. I used a piece o cardboard @ 2' hi by width o car @ 3' in front of nose...foglite reflection ('bar' o lite) was @ 16" at top...readjusted to @ 17" at top which allowed lite beam to illuminate way further forward without issues to oncuming motorists...a significant improvement for these.
 

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Re: H9 FOGLITE/ LOBEAM INSTALL

Hi All...just got another set of H9's last nite...pulled the the H11LL's out of the Lobeam sockets...modded the H9 lite socket(snip small plastic tang/rib with cutters)...connector slid rite in and these twisted rite in without modding the metal [email protected] 10mins....definately easier then the foglite mod. Anyway...there is an increase in illumination...but not as much as the foglite H9 upgrade & readjustment gave. I also cruzed last nite and had no issues with uncuming motorists with the H9 foglite & lobeam upgrade...but as soon as i flik'd my Silver Star H7's (Hi Beams) on...they 'complained'. The Hi Beam upgrade i did earlier this week is also an enormous increase in illumination when am able to use them....sooo...at this point the foglite H9 upgrade & Silver Star H7 (WHITE 1's...not blue) will give the most noticable improvement in forward illumination...for a meager amount....at least for me.
 

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[quote author=SGs Fuzion link=topic=66139.msg1146006#msg1146006 date=1168613869]
was @ 16" at top...readjusted to @ 17" at top[/quote]

How many turns of the screw? Also, which way adjusts the light upwards - clockwise or counter?

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Hi Cueball...do not recollect exactly how many turns clockwise it took...i just marked the cardboard @ 17" from floor and with fogs on adjusted till top of horizantal lite 'bar' hit the mark & repeated process on other side. On my car...level ground...full [email protected] 3' between nose & piece o cardboard across front ...the horizantal lite 'bar' from foglite reflection was @ 16" from the ground. I arbitrarally picked a 1" up adjustment for a start point...and it did the trick for me with regards to better illumination further out the front for increased nitetime visibility....without blinding oncuming motorists.
 

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Hi All....finally got my cam back from my daughter whom borrowed it for pix of grandkids school plays & awards ceremonies the past few weeks...apparently has better zoooom capabilities then hers....anyway ...posted sum pix of the bulb mod & foglamp adjustment...hope they help clear up any greyzones the text didn't.
 

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FYI: To adjust fogs on a Milan does not require removal of anything - there is a cutout under the bulb. Also, to adjust the light upwards, turn the torx counter-clockwise.
 

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Hi Cueball...thanx for the fyi...Milan owners now know how to do this easy tweek for increased illumination.
 

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SGs Fuzion- I gotta ? for you. I see you have the S model like me. Did your's come with fog lights already installed? Mine is an 2007, and it din't come with fog lights. I'd like to install some, but don't want some tacky one going in.
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Hi Gonzo Fusion...Mine did not come with Chrome Bezels or Foglamps...just the blk inserts. I ordered the set of chrome bezels, fog lites and connectors from Paul @ Partscheap...installed & wired to parking lites and did the flashing side marker mod at the same time...really easy to do. Bezels were @ $49 shipped...lamps & connectors were @ $135 shipped....flash'g sidemark'r mod is Daniel Stern.
 

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[quote author=SGs Fuzion link=topic=66139.msg1424704#msg1424704 date=1179672738]
Hi Gonzo Fusion...Mine did not come with Chrome Bezels or Foglamps...just the blk inserts. I ordered the set of chrome bezels, fog lites and connectors from Paul @ Partscheap...installed & wired to parking lites and did the flashing side marker mod at the same time...really easy to do. Bezels were @ $49 shipped...lamps & connectors were @ $135 shipped....flash'g sidemark'r mod is Daniel Stern.
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Sweet! Can't wait to put them in. Thanks bud!
 

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Hi Gonzo Fusion...you are most welcome...if ya need any 'info' while doing this mod...let me know
 

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Hi,

I find a heavy duty connectors of H11 upgrade. Here is the description:
The Höen heavy duty connectors are recommended when installing 70w and higher bulbs.
Manufactured for Höen by DELPHI they include pre-attached upgraded wiring which
is optional depending on your installation.

Simply snap off your existing connectors and replace with the Hoën heavy duty connectors.

Here is the website: http://www.hoen-usa.com/connector.htm

I order 2 sets. One set for the foglight and one set for the headlight.
 

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Hi Blackbet...thanx for the FYI & link!! I have @ 11K miles on it & I drive with my Park/Fog lites on all the time and have not had any 'issues' with it...so far...but the heat of the summer is still to come. If I do...I will certainly post it and procure these heavy duty connectors to hopefully resolve the problem. Thanx again...much appreciated!
 

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[quote author=SGs Fuzion link=topic=66139.msg1465391#msg1465391 date=1181126510]
Hi Blackbet...thanx for the FYI & link!! I have @ 11K miles on it & I drive with my Park/Fog lites on all the time and have not had any 'issues' with it...so far...but the heat of the summer is still to come. If I do...I will certainly post it and procure these heavy duty connectors to hopefully resolve the problem. Thanx again...much appreciated!
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Hi,

No problem. I will need a little help from you later on the BACKUP LITE MOD....
after I finish with the H9 mod.
 
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