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[quote author=Colinsb link=topic=103516.msg2852242#msg2852242 date=1231518900]
I've read several of the posts on this topic. Just like any FWD or RWD for that matter with 60 or 50 all-season tires, you're going to have lousy performance in snow. If you're going to live in a snowy climate then do yourself a favor and invest in snow tires. Get them mounted on cheapo steel rims and install them mid-November and take them off in April. Regardless of car you will dramatically improve snow and ice performance with snow tires. I'm currently running Dunlop SP3 3D winter tires on my Fusion SEL V6. The snow and ice performance with them is phenomenal, particularly with having an old-fashioned Minnesota winter for a change.
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Right on and rightly said. Another satisfied Dunlop Winter Sport 3D customer.

I hear people piss and moan all the time and they say they can't afford winter tires. I put some money away starting in August and put a little more away each month after until November. You don't have to buy the top of the line. Very decent winter tires are quite affordable. Others say they have good all-seasons and don't need winters. Some say it's a conspiracy by the tire companies. Get a grip! Pretty well any half decent winter tire will outperform any all-season in stopping, handling and acceleration in winter conditions (COLD, ICE, SLUSH and SNOW!). If people would just try a vehicle with winter tires they would be sold. The difference is tremendous.
 

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Ok and if you live in a townhouse w/ no garage..where do you keep these winter tires? My 89 Escort was better in the snow than my 2007 Milan..That's unacceptable IMHO.
 

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How your car handles has more to do with the driver than with the tires. My Fuze is running the same all-weather tires that it had when I bought it and I don't have any problems in the snow or ice
 

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LOL! It's got to do more with weather or not you experience real winter or not.

We've had eight feet of snow so far this season and I can tell you that without snows, the Fusion would be a real handful to drive.

The snows make it much better but even with snows, it's not very impressive in FWD platform and fails to inspire confidence even when properly set up.
 

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[quote author=biggee72 link=topic=103516.msg2866888#msg2866888 date=1232052171]
Ok and if you live in a townhouse w/ no garage..where do you keep these winter tires? My 89 Escort was better in the snow than my 2007 Milan..That's unacceptable IMHO.
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I live in a condo apartment so I eat the cost of storage at the tire shop ($80 for the set) myself.

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Question; would siping the stock ContriPros help with snow traction any? I figure that I'll be replacing the tires before next winter and considering the horrid traction I get with them (25K on them) any little bit helps. Also, what do shops typically charge to do it?
 

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I have the 17" Michs and Traction Control w/esp and so far this winter in upstate NY driving 9 miles each way on the Highway at night no problem.
 

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Lots of snow this winter. I am running Michelin tires (a replacement set but the same OEM tires as original) on my '06 SEL FWD.

I think my old Contour was better in the snow, but it had Blizzaks in the winter. I think the Fusion is a little slippery, but when I see others having much more problems than me, i guess my criticism is not valid.

I find that I can comfortably travel 50 mph in medium to heavy snow, while others creep along at 25 to 30. The car handles extremely well in terms of stability. While it may lack a little traction when starting on a mild grade in snow, it's far better than most of the other FWD cars I see in traffic.

Most of the cars I see off in the ditches or against the guard rails are SUVs - and particularly Jeeps.

So I rate the Fusion "B" in snow, but everything else is "C" or worse.
 

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You also have to take into account the person driving the car.
I'd rather drive slower than faster, even if I know my car can handle it.
 

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I have an 09 Fusion SE and live in western Canada. We have had alot of snow here recently and it has been especially cold and nasty out. Also, I drive out on a really crappy grid (gravel) road quite a bit to visit my horse. The Fusion is awesome in the snow. I have a stock SE with the traction control and it just owns icy highways, ruts, ice covered gravel etc. You obviously have to drive it competently, but it is far better than my old GM in the snow, that's for sure. And I don't have winter tires on it so I imagine it would be even better with those on. Next year.
 

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[quote author=snowman1 link=topic=103516.msg2098865#msg2098865 date=1203955574]
I have an 06 SE FWD auto with the Conti OEM tires. I think this car with this set up (maybe it's the tires) pretty much sucks in the snow. I love how it handles on dry roads and in the rain, but in the snow...not so happy. I've lived in the midwest all my life, have driven cars and vans both fwd and all wheel drive, and I think this car is one of the worst in the snow. Tirerack rates the conti's as above average for snow, but not in my opinion. So I take it a little slower and a little more cautiously than I'd like, but I want to arrive safely at my destination. And, I wish the SE had heated exterior mirrors.

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My 09 SE does have heated mirrors. What model year is yours?
 

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My 07 SE doesn't have Heated Mirrors. They are really convenient, although it takes all of like 2 min to clean them off.
 

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I bouth Falken Ziex ZE-512. These things are AWESOME. Not winter tires by any means but way better than the stock Michelin's. They work better in the snow, they work better in the rain, they work better on dry road. They are actually performance all seasons but won the Consumer Reports comparison test. Im highly impressed with how well they got this tire to do everything. We have had a harsh winter here so far and I have been out in the storm every single time and have not gotten stuck yet. And I can still go racing on them in the summer! lol

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Ok and if you live in a townhouse w/ no garage..where do you keep these winter tires? My 89 Escort was better in the snow than my 2007 Milan..That's unacceptable IMHO.
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When I had my apartment, I put my winter wheels in the Walk-in Closet(each in a bag).
 

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Wow, looks like my thread blew up since I started it lol

I definitely need new tires cuz they suck in even the rain. I hydroplane around turns like a biatch lol BUT that's on me...it's still soo soo fun lol n feels like I'm drifting :)
 

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What do Dunlop Sp winter sport M3 tires go for? $200 a tire? (Canadian)

What are winter rims costing?
 

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[quote author=Deathlok link=topic=103516.msg3299494#msg3299494 date=1251393293]
What do Dunlop Sp winter sport M3 tires go for? $200 a tire? (Canadian)

What are winter rims costing?
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Not sure but don't forget, you'll need tire pressure monitor sensors for your steelies unless you want the idiot light glowing at you all winter :shock:

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I didn't mess with the TPMS sensors for my winter tires/wheels. The idiot light isn't anything a small piece of black electrical tape won't fix for our winter months. :)
 

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To me, TIRES ARE KEY, some tires are just junk in snow. So far, my stock Michelin 17's seem to do a great job on my 2010 I4 6MT. I climbed hills with no fan fare this past weekend, The Fusion seems as good as any other FWD car I've owned, but also, I've spent 34 years driving in New England Winters, and have NEVER WALKED, even with RWD! I get a kick out of watching my fellow Virginians drive in the stuff, many are just comical!

John
 
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