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Check out www.fusionchallenge.com. 600 people compared the Fusion vs. Camry and Accord, and the Fusion won on styling, handling, and other factors. There are several videos to watch. This is supposed to be a major marketing campaign that Ford is beginning.
 

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[quote author=RandyR link=topic=66213.msg1135670#msg1135670 date=1168057362]
Check out www.fusionchallenge.com. 600 people compared the Fusion vs. Camry and Accord, and the Fusion won on styling, handling, and other factors. There are several videos to watch. This is supposed to be a major marketing campaign that Ford is beginning.
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Randy,
Yeah but they don't mention that all 600 were FoMoCo employees from Dearborn, Mich. :D Just kidding. LOL. It's too bad they didn't interview me. I'd be happy to tell them how utterly disgusted I am with the 13 miles per gallon that I am getting for the first 713 miles, 95 percent of which is city driving. "The Guzzler" is a 2007 V6 six-speed automatic SEL AWD Fusion.

Styling and handling is all well and good, but not much of a consolation when the car automatically veers into the nearest gas station. I didn't expect this thing to get 30 mph because of the drive train configuration. However, I darn sure wanted it to at least get the EPA-estimated 19 mpg for in-city driving.

The dealer says to bring it in at 1,500 miles and they will check it out on the computer. Forum members (and the manual) says it needs 3,000 to break in. Five will get you 10 this thing is not going to make 19 mpg no matter what and it's not even air-conditioning time.

Boz, sickened in Salisbury
 

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[quote author=RandyR link=topic=66213.msg1135670#msg1135670 date=1168057362]
Check out www.fusionchallenge.com. 600 people compared the Fusion vs. Camry and Accord, and the Fusion won on styling, handling, and other factors. There are several videos to watch. This is supposed to be a major marketing campaign that Ford is beginning.
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Randy,
Yeah but they don't mention that all 600 were FoMoCo employees from Dearborn, Mich. :D Just kidding. LOL. It's too bad they didn't interview me. I'd be happy to tell them how utterly disgusted I am with the 13 miles per gallon that I am getting for the first 713 miles, 95 percent of which is city driving. "The Guzzler" is a 2007 V6 six-speed automatic SEL AWD Fusion.

Styling and handling is all well and good, but not much of a consolation when the car automatically veers into the nearest gas station. I didn't expect this thing to get 30 mph because of the drive train configuration. However, I darn sure wanted it to at least get the EPA-estimated 19 mpg for in-city driving.

The dealer says to bring it in at 1,500 miles and they will check it out on the computer. Forum members (and the manual) says it needs 3,000 to break in. Five will get you 10 this thing is not going to make 19 mpg no matter what and it's not even air-conditioning time.

Boz, sickened in Salisbury
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Boz:
I don't understand how the hell you are getting such lousy gas millage. I get about 19 city and have seen 28 on the highway (going through Salisbury on 13). Do you let the car sit idle a lot? Have you taken real MPG tests without looking at the display? I know awhile back there was a post about the accuracy of the MPG display. Just trying to help ya. Seems like you are beyond upset over this and would like to see you get your MPG where is needs to be.

Chris, in Amish Country (hahaha)

Awesome video
 

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Mileage

Boz I am sorry to hear of your undesirable mileage. I am getting around 23-25 combined in my 07 SEL. What is the AWD supposed to get? Hopefully you can report back something positive once you bring it back to the dealer. I just wanted to let you know what I was getting so you could tell them what a V6 non-AWD gets. Maybe another person with AWD can chime in?
 

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Those videos aren't telling me anything I don't already know. This AWD handles like a dream compaired to my old fusion. There really is a lot less body roll with the AWD.
 
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Um. The video is great. But where are all the people that picked the Camry or other cars? I'm sure they said different about the Fusion.
 

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Um. The video is great. But where are all the people that picked the Camry or other cars? I'm sure they said different about the Fusion.
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Who cares?
 

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[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=66213.msg1136084#msg1136084 date=1168105672]
Um. The video is great. But where are all the people that picked the Camry or other cars? I'm sure they said different about the Fusion.
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Who cares?
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Check the Camry boards... I sure the other half is out there!
 

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[quote author=Chris06Fusion link=topic=66213.msg1135906#msg1135906 date=1168088971]
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Boz:
I don't understand how the hell you are getting such lousy gas millage. I get about 19 city and have seen 28 on the highway (going through Salisbury on 13). Do you let the car sit idle a lot? Have you taken real MPG tests without looking at the display? I know awhile back there was a post about the accuracy of the MPG display. Just trying to help ya. Seems like you are beyond upset over this and would like to see you get your MPG where is needs to be.

Chris, in Amish Country (hahaha)

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Chris,

Nope, no idling time. Unlike your terrain, the Delmarva Peninsula is as flat as a fritter. We are both very conservative, gentle drivers; the tires are properly inflated (but soon to be pumped an extra 3 psi to 36). Yes, I have divide the number of gallons used into the number of miles driven.

The last fill-up required 14.275 gallons for 244.5 miles, 90 of which were highway miles at 60 mph. Even though 38.9 percent of the miles were on the highway, the overall mileage was still only 17.6 (computer) 17.13 (long division).

Yeah, I want to like the car but the mileage situation is intolerable, at this point. The dealer is aware; said to bring it in at 1,500 miles and they would "put it on the computer." Owner's manual says it won't reach break-in status until 3,000 miles or so.

There is definitely something wrong. I will just have to be patient I guess and hope (pray?) for something good to happen. My gut feeling is that it just ain't gonna happen though. We shall see.

I am keeping good records of this fiasco. I would be deliriously happy to achieve the EPA estimates of 19 city and 26 highway. Perhaps the remedy will show up on the computer. What I do know is that I will not settle for 13 mpg city. The air-conditioning is not even in use yet!

I am happy for all of the satisfied owners are are achieving the EPA estimates, or better. I just want to join them. LOL

Boz
 

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Re: Mileage

[quote author=Panther link=topic=66213.msg1135964#msg1135964 date=1168096004]
Boz I am sorry to hear of your undesirable mileage. I am getting around 23-25 combined in my 07 SEL. What is the AWD supposed to get? Hopefully you can report back something positive once you bring it back to the dealer. I just wanted to let you know what I was getting so you could tell them what a V6 non-AWD gets. Maybe another person with AWD can chime in?
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Panther (cool name),
That's great news that you are getting 23-25 combined. My last fill-up was Jan. 5, Friday. The car traveled 244.5 miles and required 14.275 gallons to do so. Ninety of those miles, 38.9 percent, were at highway speeds of 60 mph. That comes out to 17.6 mpg (on-board computer) 17.13 mpg via the long division method (miles divided by gallons).

The EPA estimate for a V6, automatic transmission, AWD is 19 city, 26 highway. My 17 mpg combined doesn't even equal the 19 for in-city driving and of course no air-conditioning is being used.

I would be very interested to learn what other V6, automatic, AWD owners are getting. The dealer has promised to "put it on the computer" at 1,500 miles (we only have 713 miles on it since we purchased it Dec. 4) and the owner's manual says that the car needs 3,000 miles to break in.

Hopefully, our deplorable mileage situation will improve dramatically but quite frankly I doubt that a computer analysis or break in is going to boost the 13 mpg figure to the EPA-estimated 19 mpg mark.

I will give it some time, but sure would like to hear from other AWD owners. Am I the only one with this problem?

Boz
 

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[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=66213.msg1136084#msg1136084 date=1168105672]
Um. The video is great. But where are all the people that picked the Camry or other cars? I'm sure they said different about the Fusion.
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Funny. LOL :D
 

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Good to see the fusion getting some more good press but it does seem a bit biased, but who cares is right! :)

BOZ-not sure on exact mpg cause I'm going off the computer (next fill up I will keep track myself) but it goes between 14-16 for me with no freeway mileage yet (and some idling, lots of heater use also) I'm waiting for the new EPA estimates coming for the new model year
 

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Sorry to hear about your mileage. However, its common knowledge that a car has a break-in period. Some claim as high as 5,000 miles before you can start to question MPG. I own an 06 SEL V6 with all options. I average about 23.8MPG. Freeway best is 33 MPG going 70-75MPH.. I would think the AWD system along with the added weight would bring your MPG down a bit also.
 

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I have had my SE V6 for over a year and have 25,000 miles on it, and I consistently get 25-26 mpg driving 60-65 mph on hilly two lane roads. My best mileage has been 29 mpg on a 500 mile interstate trip.
 

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[quote author=otaku link=topic=66213.msg1136566#msg1136566 date=1168133019]
Good to see the fusion getting some more good press but it does seem a bit biased, but who cares is right! :)

BOZ-not sure on exact mpg cause I'm going off the computer (next fill up I will keep track myself) but it goes between 14-16 for me with no freeway mileage yet (and some idling, lots of heater use also) I'm waiting for the new EPA estimates coming for the new model year
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Your figures are close to my 13 mpg in-city. The last time I topped off the tank was Friday. Went 224.5 miles on 14.275 gallons or 17.6 mpg computer, 17.13 mpg long division, gallons divided into miles.

Unfortunately, 90 of those 224.5 miles, or 38.9 percent, were on the highway for a short trip at 60 mph. That means the combined mileage was still 2 mpg below the EPA in-city figure of 19 mpg. The EPA estimate for highway is 26 mpg for this vehicle.

These "how do you like the car?" surveys are all well and good but of course never include real-life experiences like miles per gallons which translates into cost per mile to operate. It sounds like you and I are getting similar results, neither of which is very good.

I complained to my dealer and he told me to bring it in at 1,500 miles and they would "put it on the computer." I am hoping that a re-flash of the Powertrain Computer Module will result in some improvement. Heck, this is winter driving, but still 50 degrees in January here. I am already dreading what the mpg figures will be in the summer, with the air conditioner in use.

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will continue to monitor the situation closely. The difference between 13 mpg and 19 mpg is an extra $539.24 a year, based on 10,000 miles driven with gas at $2.22 a gallon.

I don't know about you, but I have much better uses for that 539 extra bucks a year than pouring it into a Fusion gas tank. My wife and I are both very conservative, gentle drivers and our terrain is as flat as a pool table.

These product surveys have a tendency to make us feel like "smart buyers" but 13 mpg in-city driving makes me feel like a very dumb one. Things have got to get better simply because they can't get much worse. LOL.
 

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Looks like this has turned into an MPG thread and he's my report. My wife's 06 Zephyr has about 3800 miles on it and the MPG hasn't changed since it was new. It barely gets 17 mpg avg with I'd say 90% pure city driving. (potential stop intersections at least every mile or so) I checked the last tank using the "manual" method and it was only 16.7 mpg which for only a 3.0 with all the modern computer technology is pretty pathetic. The MPG reading on the dash indicated 17.5 and the MPH, whatever that means in constantly at 24. I have a 4WD Ford with a 4.0 and it gets about 15 in the city and is a lot heavier, has a lot more air to push around and with a 25% larger engine so go figure. I sent the zephyr in for service at about 2900 miles and they supposedly updated the PCM code but I don't think they really did but that's another story. I'm going to ask them to update it again the next time I take it in. I took the car on a 50 mile trip once which was pure interstate driving and the MPG on the dash quickly went up to 29 so it apparently was getting decent highway mileage. I'm sure my wife has her foot in it between stop lights so the city mileage probably could be a little better but when I drive it I'm pretty soft on the starts and stops and I don't notice much improvement.
 

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Another :hijacked:
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Chris,

Yours is truly a thankless task. LOL. Maybe one of the reasons why some threads get hijacked is because people really do care about their mileage (and FoMoCo made it easy to check with its on-board computer, a feature that Subaru had 15 years ago).

Kudos, however, for establishing a sticky mileage thread. I, for one, will be following it closely. :shock:
 

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[quote author=orinoco127 link=topic=66213.msg1137106#msg1137106 date=1168180177]
Looks like this has turned into an MPG thread and he's my report. My wife's 06 Zephyr has about 3800 miles on it and the MPG hasn't changed since it was new. It barely gets 17 mpg avg with I'd say 90% pure city driving. (potential stop intersections at least every mile or so) I checked the last tank using the "manual" method and it was only 16.7 mpg which for only a 3.0 with all the modern computer technology is pretty pathetic. The MPG reading on the dash indicated 17.5 and the MPH, whatever that means in constantly at 24. I have a 4WD Ford with a 4.0 and it gets about 15 in the city and is a lot heavier, has a lot more air to push around and with a 25% larger engine so go figure. I sent the zephyr in for service at about 2900 miles and they supposedly updated the PCM code but I don't think they really did but that's another story. I'm going to ask them to update it again the next time I take it in. I took the car on a 50 mile trip once which was pure interstate driving and the MPG on the dash quickly went up to 29 so it apparently was getting decent highway mileage. I'm sure my wife has her foot in it between stop lights so the city mileage probably could be a little better but when I drive it I'm pretty soft on the starts and stops and I don't notice much improvement.
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Except for driving habits, your experience seems to parallel some of my own. We are getting 13 mpg in city driving for the first 713 miles. The last fill-up, Jan. 5, was for 244.5 miles driven, 38.9 percent of it for a 90-mile trip at 55-60 mpg. The fill-up took 14.275 gallons. The on-board computer said 17.6 mpg, long division math puts it at 17.13 mpg, a difference of .5 mpg on the optimistic side of the ledger.

Ours is a 2007 V6 SEL AWD Fusion; $27,105 MSRP. I am feeling pretty stupid about now. Boz, second thoughts in Salisbury (Smallsberry) MD.
 

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[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=66213.msg1136084#msg1136084 date=1168105672]
Um. The video is great. But where are all the people that picked the Camry or other cars? I'm sure they said different about the Fusion.
[/quote] The difference from those on the camry and accord boards is, that all that where at the test drive Have actually drivin a fusion. The people on the boards are just trying to keep up the Idea that foreign is better. Airigants will cost them, They better go back to the drawing board and do it better next time. They last generation of camry looked better!
 
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