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Who has better options and exterior design?
I think I should have looked a little bit more at the Mercury.

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/autoshow/chi-0602100395feb10,0,2336363.story

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"No one expressed similar enthusiasm for the Mercury Milan. They simply were at a loss to say anything
definitive about it.

"Well," said one Detroit journalist, "historically, Mercury has been offered as something between Ford
and Lincoln in the Ford lineup."

Yet, no one had a problem putting a face on the Fusion or the Zephyr. All share the CD3 platform, which
can be used for front-wheel-drive or all-wheel-drive midsize vehicles. But the Fusion and the Zephyr
had identities. Milan did not."


http://www.fordfusion.net/specs/2006-ford-fusion-overview.php

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"The 2006 Ford Fusion is the company's first fully "digital" car. It was completely designed, engineered and tested for
manufacture in a digital environment – using the most advanced design tools available for precision, quality and efficiency.

By drawing on these new tools and the company's global product development resources, Fusion's engineering team was
able to bring the Fusion to market faster than traditional vehicle-development programs."


http://www.vistamagazine.com/octcar.htm

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"The big news from Ford is the all-new Fusion sedan, the first vehicle to be built on Ford’s new CD3 platform, shared by the new Lincoln Zephyr and Mercury Milan. The Fusion has a roomy interior and spacious trunk as well as a variety of high-end features. Two engine choices will be available: a 2.3-liter 4-cylinder and a 3.0-liter 210 horsepower V6, the latter teamed with a 6-speed automatic transmission."


first meaning that Fusion hit the drawing table, rather mouse pad first.

I don't care anyones preference myself, but I am proving what I said, that the Fusion was the basis of the new Ford platform
that is based on the Mazda 6. it was the first designed & prototyped out. the rest followed, then they all rolled out of assembly
together.

I prefer the Fusion, it looks tight & feels great to drive, and the Fusion's interior was also designed first.
the others probably handle just as good, due to the same chassis, but the Fusion wins hands down, on affordability,
handling & agressive looks, I am not alone in this though either, as I would be the only one on this site if so.
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of course there are some people who agree with you. but a quick sample of car enthusiasts at autoweek shows most people prefer the milan appearance, and a lot of people are pretty enthusiastic about it

and also, your sources contain incorrect information such as 210 hp. why would you expect the rest of the article to be correct?

most people buy the fusion because it seems to be cheaper for exactly same car.

however, most people don't realize that if you option out both the fusion and the milan, the milan becomes cheaper and it is a better deal.

you seem to think im anti-fusion. i'm not. its my next favorite car after the milan, mainly because of its handling.

however, i am just expressing the opinion, which is shared by many other car enthusiasts, that fusion styling is a bit ricey and misguided.

if you see a fusion and milan side by side, and ask a random guy to guess which car is more expensive, he definitely will say the milan.
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hell, even look at the replies to this thread. The majority prefer the Milan. Even the admin of this board prefers the milan
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my main argument is not about the fact of the Fusion / Milan love / hate fest,
it is in responce to what you have said about the fact that the Fusion was first
and the Milan was copied off of it, and the Ford is the first to have been designed
& made as a prototype.and I have otioned out both, and the Merc is more expensive
for exactly the same options.

quoted directly from the actual Ford sites.
Milan Premier 2.3L loaded $24,415
Fusion SEL 2.3L loaded $22,950

Milan (std) 2.3L loaded $22,750
Fusion SE 2.3L loaded $21,180

Milan (std) 2.3L $21,080 (same options as Fusion S)
Fusion S 2.3L $18,310

and even if you take into consideration rebates & other things the Merc is more expensive, or equal in price
to the Fords, but mostly well more expensive.

and my SEL was $21,490, without the moonroof & top stereo, I looked at a Milan
only.. because we needed to get rid of our piece of shit Ranger, and we couldn't
find any Fusions in stock at the lot we went to, and the damn same options
on the Milan we have on our Fusion, were over $2000 more than what we got,
I went back a week later and we got out Fusion, I specifically set out to buy one,
the Milan would have been out of necessity not actual desire to own it.

I have done much research into the car, I never actually read all those I posted
I found then real quick to show you, not everyone cares for the Milan, and alot
don't, I don't care who like the Fusion, even if the President himself don't like it
I don't care, my point is too many people do and your argument in favor or the
people who like the Milan is irrelevant, as I don't care about that. to that point though
there are more people than me that love their Fusion, so whatever about that, I for
one love my car, and hate the Milan & Zephyr, you don't oh well, the Fusion is not
thrown together, it is not a piece of shit, it does not look like a damn Camry, and
even if it did, it was designed to battle the imports, that there are so many of today.
the Milan looks more like an Accord than the Fusion looks like a Camry, the Camry is
just damn ugly. and yes the caddy's & BMW's do share lines with the Fusion, there
have been many people that recognize that the Caddy looks like a Fusion, the way the
headlights & the Grille is laid out, although I know the new Caddy's were out long before the
Fusion ever hit the table, hence where some of the styling was also influenced.
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:sicmade3: damn buttons
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obviously when i meant loaded, i meant a V6, not the 2.3

try again.
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for the record, a fully loaded mercury milan V6 premier is $26290
a fully loaded fusion SEL V6 is $26445

both have $500 rebates.

clearly if you want the most luxurious fusion/milan possible, the milan is the better deal
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i thiink i got whats different about the 3 models

fusion = japanese styling
milan = european styling
zephyr = american styling
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This has been one of the better keyboard battles I have seen yet here :lol:

I purchased my Milan over the Fusion because I wanted less flash on the outside of my vehicle. The Fusion is a good looking vehicle, but it was not my style. I also like the upgraded (or at least I think so) features of the Milan. Projector lights, LED tails, license plate in the bumper, brushed strip on the the trunk and grill, clock in dash, gauges w/chrome rings, cover for cup holder, and armrest cover. I think that is it and all of the items listed are not available on the Fusion (except of the clock).

Do you really think that FoMoCo for once did not design the Fusion without the other two models. While the Fusion may have been the public design flagship, I am sure that the intention was to deliver all three and one was not an after thought. They are also all marketed differently too.

To say that one car is better then the other is ridiculous, but one car might be better for you.

Regardless, FoMoCo definitely did a great job to replace the Taurus/Sable model. I am just glad that this time they made the two a little more unique then before.
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when I stated the model, not everyone wants the V6, alot of the Fusions I have seen are the 4 cyl
so it don't matter what the hell you are trying to pull, I am still stating things other than you can get my
point of, so stop trying. you are just someone that has to be right about everything, and to me that tells
me you know nothing. I could care less about your obsessive banter about which car looks better or
costs less, in my experience and I go to the lots alot to keep up with the new cars & prices, the Mercury
costs more than a Ford, in any model, rebates or not. I still see a hell of a lot more Fusions than Milans or Zephyrs
and that tells me that Ford is doing something right. point being I don't give a shit about the Milan, it is ugly as hell
to me and not at all impressive, and if you can't take that, that is my opinon then to hell with you, get a life and stay
off the computer more, I am on here maybe once a day, when I check my e-mail unless something catches my
attention, I have better things to do, than spend so much time and effort here on a damn online post. I come here
like everyone else does to read posts, get tips & state opinion.

my opinion is that I don't like the Milan, I like the Fusion, I say it don't look right and is unimpressive to me, I don't call it
a piece of shit, I don't say that it was put together like a jigsaw puzzle, I just don't like it, you might, but I don't and
drive whatever the hell it is you want to drive, my point here was not to talk wbout price or someone else's preference
I don't put down anyone for owning a Milan, you say that you like the Fusion as well yet you say what you say about it.

but you keep dragging the point of my original post out and away from the subject that the Fusion was the
first car designed and tested before any of the others were designed, that goes for exterior styling and interior.
you people obviously don't get how the auto designers work, the damn Fusion was debuted at the 2005 Auto show
and was based on the 427, the Milan & Zephyr were no where to be found, they were still at the testing phases
at that point. then they all began production at the same time. I read things, obviously others need to read more too.
tell me then if the Fusion wasn't the first car designed, why do the body seams on the other cars seem like something
is missing or that the bumpers don't mesh well with the taillights?, all they did was add different lights &
made a new for that model rear bumper to make up the difference.

and for the record.... not everyone wants the damn tiny bit of so called luxury that tha Milan may provide over the Fusion, and
how much more Luxury, is there, the damn cars are identical in performance & handling, not one is better than the other
in those cases they have the same components & are dialed in the same way, so what other than looks could make one better
than the other???? .... nothing. and also for the record like I said, my Fusion was way less than the equally optioned Milan, when I
priced as I said before, with actual lot numbers, not web site numbers, and both had $1000 rebates & owner loyalty cash back.
but as I stated why if I had gotten it the reasons for the Milan, and it wasn't for looks. 4 or 6cyl be damned, who cares?
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[quote author=shadowfall1976 link=topic=43339.msg693190#msg693190 date=1146506043]
tell me then if the Fusion wasn't the first car designed, why do the body seams on the other cars seem like something
is missing or that the bumpers don't mesh well with the taillights?, all they did was  add different lights &
made a new for that model rear bumper to make up the difference.

and for the record.... not everyone wants the damn tiny bit of so called luxury that tha Milan may provide over the Fusion, and
how much more Luxury, is there, the damn cars are identical in performance & handling, not one is better than the other
in those cases they have the same components & are dialed in the same way, so what other than looks could make one better
than the other???? .... nothing. and also for the record like I said, my Fusion was way less than the equally optioned Milan, when I
priced as I said before, with actual lot numbers, not web site numbers, and both had $1000 rebates & owner loyalty cash back.
but as I stated why if I had gotten it the reasons for the Milan, and it wasn't for looks. 4 or 6cyl be damned, who cares?
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to me, the body seams on the fusion looks like something was missing and that the lights don't match up well with the body shape. The Milan looks perfect. the fusion looks like a ***** impersonation of the honda cr-v or something, except uglier.

i never said your fusion was more expensive than an equally optioned out milan. i said that when options are maxed out, the fusion is more expensive.

the fusion wasn't designed that way. their computer designed programs can easily slap on new headlights and grilles on a car. clearly, the fusion headlights do not fit its body. The mercury milan minus the waterfall grille was supposed to be the original one. The fusion is just a lame last minute change by swapping in 427 details.

i am curious, how old are you? you talk like a 5 year old
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If you're going to engage in a discussion you should respect your peer's opinions even if they are different than yours. The use of petty adjectives will only lessen the credibility and impact of your own argments. In fact, the only thing poor communication skills will do is shut people out.

Before you ask how old I am ... I'm 32, soon to be 33. I live in suburban Montreal. My mother toungue is French, my shoe size is 9 1/2 but some 9 and some 10s will fit. My waist is 34, my neck is 16 1/2. I own a Mac not a PC. Oh, and I drive with my hands at 10 and 2 and I think 110 km/h is a much more appropriate speed than 110 mph regardless of whether it's a Fusion, a Milan, a Pinto, or a Bobcat.

Cheers

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[quote author=ppdiaporama link=topic=43339.msg694602#msg694602 date=1146538346]
If you're going to engage in a discussion you should respect your peer's opinions even if they are different than yours.  The use of petty adjectives will only lessen the credibility and impact of your own argments.  In fact, the only thing poor communication skills will do is shut people out.

Before you ask how old I am ... I'm 32, soon to be 33.  I live in suburban Montreal.  My mother toungue is French, my shoe size is 9 1/2 but some 9 and some 10s will fit.  My waist is 34, my neck is 16 1/2.   I own a Mac not a PC.  Oh, and I drive with my hands at 10 and 2 and I think 110 km/h is a much more appropriate speed than 110 mph regardless of whether it's a Fusion, a Milan, a Pinto, or a Bobcat.

Cheers

Pat
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10 2 is dangerous driving position. it is less control, and also more fatigue, and also if the airbag deploys you are going to have prosthetic limbs. also, 110mph is much better speed than 110kmh. it is scientifically proven.
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[quote author=shadowfall1976 link=topic=43339.msg693190#msg693190 date=1146506043]
when I stated the model, not everyone wants the V6, alot of the Fusions I have seen are the 4 cyl
so it don't matter what the hell you are trying to pull, I am still stating things other than you can get my
point of, so stop trying. you are just someone that has to be right about everything, and to me that tells
me you know nothing. I could care less about your obsessive banter about which car looks better or
costs less, in my experience and I go to the lots alot to keep up with the new cars & prices, the Mercury
costs more than a Ford, in any model, rebates or not. I still see a hell of a lot more Fusions than Milans or Zephyrs
and that tells me that Ford is doing something right. point being I don't give a shit  about the Milan, it is ugly as hell
to me and not at all impressive, and if you can't take that, that is my opinon then to hell with you, get a life and stay
off the computer more, I am on here maybe once a day, when I check my e-mail unless something catches my
attention, I have better things to do, than spend so much time and effort here on a damn online post. I come here
like everyone else does to read posts, get tips & state opinion.

my opinion is that I don't like the Milan, I like the Fusion, I say it don't look right and is unimpressive to me, I don't call it
a piece of shit, I don't say that it was put together like a jigsaw puzzle, I just don't like it, you might, but I don't and
drive whatever the hell it is you want to drive,  my point here was not to talk wbout price or someone else's preference
I don't put down anyone for owning a Milan, you say that you like the Fusion as well yet you say what you say about it.

but you keep dragging the point of my original post out and away from the subject that the Fusion was the
first car designed and tested before any of the others were designed, that goes for exterior styling and interior.
you people obviously don't get how the auto designers work, the damn Fusion was debuted at the 2005 Auto show
and was based on the 427, the Milan & Zephyr were no where to be found, they were still at the testing phases
at that point. then they all began production at the same time. I read things, obviously others need to read more too.
tell me then if the Fusion wasn't the first car designed, why do the body seams on the other cars seem like something
is missing or that the bumpers don't mesh well with the taillights?, all they did was  add different lights &
made a new for that model rear bumper to make up the difference.

and for the record.... not everyone wants the damn tiny bit of so called luxury that tha Milan may provide over the Fusion, and
how much more Luxury, is there, the damn cars are identical in performance & handling, not one is better than the other
in those cases they have the same components & are dialed in the same way, so what other than looks could make one better
than the other???? .... nothing. and also for the record like I said, my Fusion was way less than the equally optioned Milan, when I
priced as I said before, with actual lot numbers, not web site numbers, and both had $1000 rebates & owner loyalty cash back.
but as I stated why if I had gotten it the reasons for the Milan, and it wasn't for looks. 4 or 6cyl be damned, who cares?


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That was awesome.... Feel better.... :lol:
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[quote author=Nr9 link=topic=43339.msg694485#msg694485 date=1146535057]
to me, the body seams on the fusion looks like something was missing and that the lights don't match up well with the body shape. The Milan looks perfect. the fusion looks like a ***** impersonation of the honda cr-v or something, except uglier.
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Interesting that you notice this, because in fact it is true. I worked on the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr for almost 3 years and I learned a few things about the history. Though I wasn't involved in the styling side of things, I did hear that the original Fusion design was more like the 500 at the front, and only at the last minute did they decide to adopt the 427 style front end. So you could say that the Milan was the first finished design, because the Fusion was later modified, but really they were done together from the beginning. The Zephyr on the other hand was a much later adaptation. The Zephyr wasn't even started until most of the Fusion/Milan hardpoints were already decided, things like the door openings, trunk opening, wheel openings, roof line etc, were all fixed so the Zephyr team didn't have much to work with.

As for which one is better, well neither. They are meant to appeal to different people. The fact that there is such debate over which is better means that Ford has done its job to distinguish the two. If nobody preferred one over the other, than Ford would have been better of just making one.
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aww did I strike a nerve it seems...... the only way you know how to attack something is to call it names?
*****, what the hell is that?, are you trying to be cool by making up words?, dude you don't impress me
or insult me, in fact I find it funny your lack of knowledge about certain things. I may be limited to what articles
that I can find to read, but most of the ones I do come from Ford pages that seems to be more accurate than
others, because hey, it's Ford themselves. I've read press releases and comments from "FORD DESIGNERS" that
have stated that the Fusion was the first design finished and that they only used inspiration from the 427 for it's
main design along with the similar sedans it was supposed to compete with and nothing I can find anywhere does
it state that the Milan was co-designed at the same time, again on Ford web sites. regardless if it's true or not
that is officially what Ford says. what else do us normal folk have to go by, if we can't go by the company's
statements? so if you want to call me wrong call Ford and tell them too.

and like I said the Fusion is owned by too many people to be this crappy copy of an CR-V, I said the Milan is
ugly and unimpressive to me, you seem to want everyone to agree with you that the Fusion "is a ***** piece
of shit" well good job here bubba, because I think people are listening to you.... while driving the Fusion that they
love and just bought. NOT!!!. you're opinion is fine that you don't like the Fusion, so what, you're opinion is like mine
here, just that. I don't put down peole for liking the Milan, but you are trying to call the car that a lot of us like
and bought here and piece of shit. so whatever your vain attempts to try to sound big are falling on deaf ears.
my love of the car will not be removed bythe likes of you, the Fusion to me is the better car, and nothing you can
say will change that fact, bring it on bubba. and did you get the point of my underlines? if not here it is again, to me,
not to you or your childish name calling ways, (and you called me immature).

you have not even been a match for me, and never will, regardless of my opinion it is just that, and it seems that
you want to have your opinion and no one else, and how can the Fusion be your second choice as a car when it
seems that you just have to call it names, I think you are full of shit and are not happy in life, CHEERS.
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I think the Fusion just turns more heads like others say. The Milan in my opinion just kinda blends in with all the other luxury cars out there. I got a Tungston Silver Fusion SE and I dont know how many times people have asked me about the car. People seem to ask me about the color too. Ive also had a few people ask to check out my car because they were thinking about buying one. Dont get me wrong, the Milan is a great car, but I would pick the Fusion over it anyday. The Milan just seems like a car an older person would drive in my opinion. My friend has a Milan and nobody has ever asked him about it. Fusion all the way!!!
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shadowfall1976, you just got pwned by waldo, who actually worked on the ford CD3 project. lol at any further comments you try to make.

companies make statemetns bcause they want to sell products, not because they want to tell the truth.

your arguments dont make sense anyway. how does fusion owned by many people imply that its not a crappy copy of a cr-v? lol at your (lack of) logic.

lol go back to your trailer
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[quote author=bkd1125 link=topic=43339.msg696830#msg696830 date=1146613324]
I think the Fusion just turns more heads like others say. The Milan in my opinion just kinda blends in with all the other luxury cars out there. I got a Tungston Silver Fusion SE and I dont know how many times people have asked me about the car. People seem to ask me about the color too. Ive also had a few people ask to check out my car because they were thinking about buying one. Dont get me wrong, the Milan is a great car, but I would pick the Fusion over it anyday. The Milan just seems like a car an older person would drive in my opinion. My friend has a Milan and nobody has ever asked him about it. Fusion all the way!!!
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the reason is that the milan looks like a luxury car and the fusion looks affordable, thats why people want to buy it, because it looks like they can afford it. the milan is much more hot and pimp with the aluminum grille, but it also looks more expensive so poeple wont think of buying it. Do an experiment: Go pick up 50 chicks with a fusion and 50 chicks with a milan, configured equally, and tally the # of girls you score with each car. I bet the milan would be higher.
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For some to assume that Milan owners are not asked about there new automobiles is a bit vane. My wife has had many inquires about the car and positive comments of it’s beauty. For it’s body style, she chose this car out of all three (Fusion, Zephyr, Camry).
Before you think it was style alone that sold her, she said it was the road handling that was the deciding factor.
In the past, we would not have even considered Mercury but this car is a different ball game. For the money, the total package just seems to have more detail.
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