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I drove my moms Ford 500 last night. And her headlights don't really throw out light, they have a more defined cut off point at the top of the low beam.

I can't stand how the Fusion's headlights just throw light out there, and say " HERES YOUR LIGHT, LIVE WITH IT". I want projector headlights so bad.

Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? It annoys the hell outta me.
 

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My headlights on the Fusion have been a constant heartache for me. I love driving at night and most always, plan my trips driving AT night. I just enjoy it.

The Fusion absolutely blows, at night-time driving. I've re-aimed my headlights according to the factory specifications in the book, I've aimed them a tad higher to TRY to get more light on the road, I've changed bulbs, everything.

Nothing works to get more light out there. The high-beams have a shit-ton of light output -- but as you stated, it's all over the place. The Fusion's low beams are short. I created a thread about this a long while ago.

Sometimes, I wonder why I didn't get a Mazda6. I went right for the Ford and never considered my other options.
 

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That still will not solve the pattern of the light. It just makes the light more so. It's not really going to be beneficial retrofitting something that was not engineered for the vehicle, onto the vehicle.

I will not go HID until we get some sort of a projector type housing.
 

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[quote author=RymanH24 link=topic=65245.msg1118877#msg1118877 date=1166931897]
I drove my moms Ford 500 last night. And her headlights don't really throw out light, they have a more defined cut off point at the top of the low beam.

I can't stand how the Fusion's headlights just throw light out there, and say " HERES YOUR LIGHT, LIVE WITH IT". I want projector headlights so bad.

Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? It annoys the hell outta me.
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I check weekly on the avl of projector lenses. I am sure that eventually someone will develop them. Just sucks we have to live with it for now. I make the lights in my fusion look great by driving my 92 T-bird at night for a week then get into the fusion. The fusion lights don't bother me as much then. :klavergreg:
 

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Yeah, I hear you on that one man. I have a '90 GT Mustang, and they are like little flashlights compared to the Fusion, lol.
 

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[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=65245.msg1119027#msg1119027 date=1166961403]
That still will not solve the pattern of the light. It just makes the light more so. It's not really going to be beneficial retrofitting something that was not engineered for the vehicle, onto the vehicle.

I will not go HID until we get some sort of a projector type housing.
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Not so fast. There are huge differences in pattern and performance between HID kits. Just look at the photos posted here. Mind you, in my opinion most US-spec vehicles on the road today are hopeless and would never ever benefit from an HID "retrofit." However, the Fusion's reflectors are a notable exception. Of all the aftermarket items I have added, the HID kit gave me the best bang for the buck.

With the sharper, more noticeable cut-off (an HID arc source is much smaller and better-defined than a halogen filament), driving at night is such a pleasure. The high beams become useless - I only need them on those rare occasions for signalling.

The biggest challenge for me (and I'm well trained in optics!) was getting the aim for both lamps properly set. Since then, I look forward to driving at night, and have NEVER been flashed at, even when going over a hill crest.

Cheers
 

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Well, with that great write up is it possible you could take some decent pictures from a camera on a tripod with about a 5-7 second exposure? Of all the photos of HID's on a Fusion -- they all look like shit and it looks like roots of a tree on a flat surface.

If there is something that you did to produce a "cut-off" that is normally attained through a projector housing with such associated hardware -- lets see it.
 

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[quote author=swoop1156 link=topic=65245.msg1119953#msg1119953 date=1167073915]
Well, with that great write up is it possible you could take some decent pictures from a camera on a tripod with about a 5-7 second exposure? Of all the photos of HID's on a Fusion -- they all look like shit and it looks like roots of a tree on a flat surface.

If there is something that you did to produce a "cut-off" that is normally attained through a projector housing with such associated hardware -- lets see it.
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Ouch! :)

You wrote about how much of a constant heartache it is for you to drive your Fusion at night. All I offer is a suggestion, which you can take or leave at your leisure, from one Fusion owner to another. I make no profit from this.

That said, here are some thoughts:

1. A reflector's "cut-off" can never be as sharp as a projector's, as the bulb shield is by definition out of the focal position. It can be improved upon (as was the case with mine) by using a smaller light source (a small arc vs. a large filament). I'm using the stock bulb shield.

2. As I said in another post, I seriously doubt I could beat the quality of noisuf's gallery. Night shots with visible light digital cameras will never do automotive lamps justice. Even pro photographers find those a challenge. I also never want to be accused of "photoshopping." :)

3. I'm not looking for an ideal solution - I can't afford it. I just hoped for an improvement and was pleasantly surprised. The Fusion's HID reflectors easily outperform the '03 Acura RL's HID reflectors (comparing oranges to oranges here): More light on the road, further down the road.

4. Hotspots seen on proximate white walls are unavoidable with reflectors, even those designed with HID in mind. The idea here is that these spots broaden and join each other on the road, resulting in fairly even illumination.

Luck may have had something to do with the results I got. But I also feel that I got a great quality kit - and you do get what you pay for, sometimes even a little more. :)

FWIW. :)
 

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you do get what you pay for, sometimes even a little more.
If seeing is beleaving then, I guess some are blind! I'll take your word for it. For now I guess H.I.D. Lighting is our best available option. Thanks, for the debate I learned a little! Can I get your kit scource & info?
 

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[quote author=furious1auto link=topic=65245.msg1121609#msg1121609 date=1167205050]
you do get what you pay for, sometimes even a little more.
If seeing is beleaving then, I guess some are blind! I'll take your word for it. For now I guess H.I.D. Lighting is our best available option. Thanks, for the debate I learned a little! Can I get your kit scource & info?
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Since you asked... :D

Both noisuf and I have had good results with the Apexcone H11 kit (see noisuf's sticky thread above this one for installation and lots of pics) from http://www.xenonexpert.com. They are currently closed until January 2. I strongly suggest you stick with 5000K or lower color for maximum light output over stock and minimum glare.

If you are mechanically gifted then installation will be a breeze. In addition to noisuf's most excellent instructions, check out my writeup. I had to slightly and very gently adjust (bend) the tabs on the bases of my bulbs to tighten the fit on the lamp housings, while improving the focus at the same time. The only downside I've seen is the tricky aiming and keeping the lenses clean (a must!) to keep all that light away from other driver's eyes.

As always, your mileage may vary. Good luck, and let us know how it went!
 

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[quote author=DrPaul84 link=topic=65245.msg1133838#msg1133838 date=1167967432]
i just got my projectors and will be doin a full hid/projector retrofit very soon, i cant wait! :D
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Projectors?? Give, where did you find them for the Fusion? :klavergreg:
 

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they arnt for the fusion i am doin a retrofit, installing bixenon projectors into the housing, it will beawesome, i will be the only fusion with bixenon headlights and led tail lights :D
 

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Not likely, you'll be the first. The rest of us will wait for a bolt in replacement projector housing. Please post pics of the resaults!
 

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Not likely, you'll be the first. The rest of us will wait for a bolt in replacement projector housing. Please post pics of the resaults!
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i will be the first and only lol, the after market ones use cheap projectors that have worse light output then stock halagon lights, and they arnt bixenon, thats why im not bothering on waiting for them because its gonna be a waste of money, sure it looks pretty on the outside but the performance just aint there...
 

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why do you say that? because we have been in cars with much better lighting and dont want to deal with not seeing at night?
 
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