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[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213737#msg4213737 date=1333595438]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213732#msg4213732 date=1333595188]
There is no debate, if the tire is too small for the rim then its the wrong tire.
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from a definitional point of view that's true...
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And from a logical point of view, and from a safety point of view ;) :lol:
 

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[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213737#msg4213737 date=1333595438]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213732#msg4213732 date=1333595188]
There is no debate, if the tire is too small for the rim then its the wrong tire.
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from a definitional point of view that's true...
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And from a logical point of view, and from a safety point of view ;) :lol:
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Fans of stretch would argue that point with you to the death...believe me, I've tried... :lol:
 

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[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213740#msg4213740 date=1333595541]
[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213737#msg4213737 date=1333595438]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213732#msg4213732 date=1333595188]
There is no debate, if the tire is too small for the rim then its the wrong tire.
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from a definitional point of view that's true...
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And from a logical point of view, and from a safety point of view ;) :lol:
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Fans of stretch would argue that point with you to the death...believe me, I've tried... :lol:
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Fans of stretch also usually end up in the ER and almost argue the point literally to death lol
 

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[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213680#msg4213680 date=1333590902]
[quote author=acedeuce802 link=topic=90859.msg4213678#msg4213678 date=1333590800]
Yes they'll fit. They are 8mm more inwards of the car of my Evo wheels, and the same width.
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Hooray!

So you're then going to want me to get a 5mm spacer for flush huh? :lol:
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you dont NEED one, but it would definitely look more rad. I would wait until you get tires on it first to see how you like it. Just remember, if you get a spacer, you might need extended lugs because the stock lug nuts might not catch enough threads to stay secure. Thank god I didn't need any...
 

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Just to put the info out there, lug nuts should have at least 8 turns before they are tight! The depth that the lug nuts tighten down is supposed to be the same length as the width.
 

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[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213758#msg4213758 date=1333596603]
[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213742#msg4213742 date=1333595710]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213740#msg4213740 date=1333595541]
[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213737#msg4213737 date=1333595438]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213732#msg4213732 date=1333595188]
There is no debate, if the tire is too small for the rim then its the wrong tire.
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from a definitional point of view that's true...
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And from a logical point of view, and from a safety point of view ;) :lol:
[/quote]

Fans of stretch would argue that point with you to the death...believe me, I've tried... :lol:
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Fans of stretch also usually end up in the ER and almost argue the point literally to death lol
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how many stretched tire fans do you personally know that ended up in the ER? i can see why everyone is so scared about the idea...but if so many people do it without issues besides inner tire wear due to camber..then idk what else to say.

ill let you know how i feel about it after it happens to me I guess. :lol:

also, i overlooked the wheels and thought they were also a 9.5 width. then yes i would still recommend a 235/35 tire. have fun with the new look! p.s. with that chop i would def get the purple lugs and black out the chrome grilles :wink: :exnbp:
 

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I have the same type of wheels ace talked about in another discussion on this, I also have a 235 on a 8.5" rim and it looks perfectly fine to me. 235/40 I believe is my tire size...I wouldn't see any issues with that tire size, on the Axis Super Hiros we are talking about here. I think there is plenty of clearance for the additional 7 mm (mine are +38, Hiros are +45). And even if you still are hesitant, a 5mm spacer (which will not hardly wear on bearings at all) will fix it nearly perfectly.

Do it. Purple lugs, YES!

Also, remember to get the right type of lugnut for the rim when you do mount it. Ball/conical/flat seated ones, whichever the rim is supposed to take.
 

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i have axis powers and they use a conical lug nut - so im sure all of their wheels may have the same feature. i went with muteki sr35 lugs in 12x1.5 thread pattern and they fit snug as a bug under a rug.
 

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[quote author=acedeuce802 link=topic=90859.msg4213756#msg4213756 date=1333596443]
Lol to those who think a 235 is unsafe or unfunctional on an 8.5" wheel. Many BMW's come stock with 225's on 8.5" wheels.
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My argument was a 235 on a 9.5" wheel is nonfunctional. Not an 8.5 wheel. You being an SCCA racer I would figure you would be all for keeping a tire functioning properly within specs by putting it on a correct size rim. If we could fit 255-275 series tires under the car I would be all for a 9.5" rim. that would be hot!!!!

People can do as they wish, I personally would not run tires that way. Thats just me and it's just for a look. Then again I would never crazy camber out a wheel unless I was racing nascar or an oval dirt. Burning out a set of tires so you can say you put a 265 tire under a car? That defeats the purpose of a larger tire which is for a larger contact patch. You actually have a smaller contact patch cambered out than you would with a set of 225 series tires.
 

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So I drove into Iowa today and picked those Axis Super Hiro's up. They really are in great condition. Minor minor flaws, some chips, scratches, etc.

I just got them home and inspected them full in the light and they are definitely stamped ET +35mm inside the spokes. So how does this change my setup?
After doing some research it appears they will still fit though, just be more flush? :shock:
 

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That's perfect. More flush. The lower the number, the farther out it is. You wont need spacers.

Id go 235/40, that's what im using myself.
 

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[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213758#msg4213758 date=1333596603]
[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213742#msg4213742 date=1333595710]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213740#msg4213740 date=1333595541]
[quote author=lyonsroar link=topic=90859.msg4213737#msg4213737 date=1333595438]
[quote author=Seasonalskier link=topic=90859.msg4213732#msg4213732 date=1333595188]
There is no debate, if the tire is too small for the rim then its the wrong tire.
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from a definitional point of view that's true...
[/quote]
And from a logical point of view, and from a safety point of view ;) :lol:
[/quote]

Fans of stretch would argue that point with you to the death...believe me, I've tried... :lol:
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Fans of stretch also usually end up in the ER and almost argue the point literally to death lol
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how many stretched tire fans do you personally know that ended up in the ER? i can see why everyone is so scared about the idea...but if so many people do it without issues besides inner tire wear due to camber..then idk what else to say.

ill let you know how i feel about it after it happens to me I guess. :lol:

also, i overlooked the wheels and thought they were also a 9.5 width. then yes i would still recommend a 235/35 tire. have fun with the new look! p.s. with that chop i would def get the purple lugs and black out the chrome grilles :wink: :exnbp:
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I stick with the crowd that puts proper sized wheels on a car, buy my good friend physics tells me all I need to know.
 

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[quote author=acedeuce802 link=topic=90859.msg4214600#msg4214600 date=1333765383]
As long as they are actually 8.5 inches wide, those specs sound perfect for an aggressive setup that will not rub at all.
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So what tire size should I be looking at with that 35 offset instead of the 45?

Can I still do the 245 instead of the 235? The 245's are just about 1/2 the price of the 235's...
 

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To be honest, I'm not sure off the top of my head. I'll let the guys who actually have 245's on their car respond to how much clearance they have. My best guess is that you'll be fine, but I can't confirm that.
 
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