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just got my fusion back from getting mods. magnaflow catback, steeda cai, and xcal2, what a difference! nice throaty sound, throttle response much better, and stays reving way beyond the red.. throwing 191 at the wheels. is this typical?
 

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191? Isn't 221 stock for the V6?
 

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[quote author=tony magnolia link=topic=88479.msg1699518#msg1699518 date=1189271551]
191? Isn't 221 stock for the V6?
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221HP is what the engine makes by itself. You lose HP through the drivetrain.
 

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i'm finding it's about 20% overall... still a very noticeable difference. best of all, i didn't get that rice sound from the exhaust.
 

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So you're saying that with the tune, intake, and exhaust, you're only getting like 200hp at the wheels? Isn't that kind of a rip off?
 

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its about a 28 hp gain, but i also didn't opt for an aggressive tune yet. i chosea combo 87/93 tune, if i add a separate 93, i'll pickup an additional 8 hp.
 

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i think its a good deal. the V6 is already quick. you should get some springs now to keep the rear end from lagging when you accelerate now
 

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Congrats. The mods sound great. So, you paid someone to install these?
 

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Those are really good results. The Fusin typically dynos about 161 to the wheels. So you picked up a good 30 HP! Those numbers are pushing Mustang territory. :csweeney:

I meant the 30 HP increase, not the overall power. ;)
 

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Really? The Fusion loses 60 horses to the wheels? Holy parasitic loss, Batman...

25%+ Man, I'd be ticked if I bought one for performance :lol:
 

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Wow... those numbers make me wonder why I'm dumping money into my Fusion :shock:
 

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[quote author=tony magnolia link=topic=88479.msg1704927#msg1704927 date=1189482267]
Wow... those numbers make me wonder why I'm dumping money into my Fusion :shock:
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Like Larry said, at 191, you're pushing Mustang territory. When a car claims to have 300 HP, that's not WHP. That's a totally different beast. 191 WHP would equate to about 260 HP stock engine HP, which is a pretty nice V6 total.
 

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[quote author=tony magnolia link=topic=88479.msg1704927#msg1704927 date=1189482267]
Wow... those numbers make me wonder why I'm dumping money into my Fusion :shock:
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Well, I don't see how it's different than any other car (besides having an abnormal amout of drivetrain loss). The Fusion's never going to be fast, so it's all about realistic expectations. A 30+ whp gain from simple modifications is nothing to scoff at. Have you ever had a car to mod before? 30 whp is rarely cheap in any model.
 

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still the quickest mods for the biggest immediate results. i'm not disappointed at all. i have found, however, that low end hasn't changed much as far as stomping on the accelerator, but, when you eases into the throttle the car does perform better at low end. the biggest noticeable difference comes at the higher rpm's.
 

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25% drive train loss is normal with an Auto Trans. FWD MTX's normally do better than that. But as far as an auto trans that has to go thru the converter that is normal. SG just dyno'd his 4 banger at 135 and that was more or less stock i think he had the exhaust on it so that would be 16% loss and if you say the exhaust made 5 hp to the tires ( doubt it does but lets just say that) it would have dyno'd at 130 with is a 19% loss. It is the auto tranny that is killing alot of the #'s
 

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True, but other comparable cars (Accord, Altima V6's) don't show such huge loss.

No big deal, as I have a 4 banger that I obviously didn't buy for performance :p
 

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What is it that causes this car to have more loss than its competitors?
 

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[quote author=slaterracing link=topic=88479.msg1707244#msg1707244 date=1189560706]
[quote author=tony magnolia link=topic=88479.msg1707223#msg1707223 date=1189560262]
What is it that causes this car to have more loss than its competitors?
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the other one may not lose less it could be that there motors are under rated or Ford engines are over rated.
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Also a good point.
 

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[quote author=fatabbot link=topic=88479.msg1705669#msg1705669 date=1189525728]
True, but other comparable cars (Accord, Altima V6's) don't show such huge loss. [/quote]

:? I don't know about that... Here's an example of a V6 Altima that has like 260+ HP stock with a custom exhaust that is way below stock 'crank' HP:

Here are the mods on this car:
2005 3.5 SE 5AT
Custom Magnaflow exhaust 2.5"
Magnaflow 14829's
Magnaflow 27" Resonator
Berk V2
AT Grounding Kit
Unorthodox Ultra S/C Pulley
Nismo F&R sway bars
Eibach Pro-Kit
Basically +20% drivetrain loss is not uncommon for most ATX cars out there....

The new SAE horsepower standards for crank HP are pretty strict and should match up very closely to the stock engine with the stock exhaust and intake configuration. (That's how they are tested on the engine dyno...)
 
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