doesnt stick to the road?

Wow. That is sad to hear. I have an I4 Fusion and I push the car to it's limits. (While it's still under warranty! :wink
And at no time have my tires ever squealed. I fly around corners, the only time i have to worry about cornering is when there is a bump right around the turn and makes my rear end fly up, GET's KINDA TRICK THEN!

Some tires just squeal more than others. Pretty much all cars are very biased towards understeer from the factory, and the best way to get more balance in the handling is adding a stiffer rear swaybar.

Ryman, if your tires aren't making any noise, you not anywhere near the limit.

maybe ill push it harder and see what happens. the car still feels very controlled, just kinda concerned about tire squealing..

The harder you push, the more it'll understeer.

i understand that. im just curious about the limits of my car

What is your tire pressure at? After I increased my pressure to 36 psi I found that they would squeal much easier.

Trust me HMW. I push hard. :wink:

I have 17" Michelins on my SEL V6. I understand why Ford chose these tires- most people are impressed by Michelins and they are "good tires". However, if you hit an off ramp with any speed, you can feel them rolling over (and playing dead). I'll admit I'm used to a rear wheel drive car, but the sidewalls on the Michelins seem more for highway comfort than the skidpad. Part of me hopes they don't last more than 30k so I can get something a little more sporty.

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Part of me hopes they don't last more than 30k so I can get something a little more sporty.
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Keep taking off-ramps at those speeds and you'll get your wish .. unless of course you hit some sand or gravel, in which case you'll have the opertunity to try out another type of car.

:lol:

Sorry to disappoint you Peg, but I don't take most off ramps very fast.  I have one ramp that I take regularly that's almost a 360 degree ramp.  I take it at a low speed- but because I'm in the turn for so long, it's like going around a skidpad.  The tires roll over every time.  Maybe if the ramp were banked a little more, it wouldn't be so bad.

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Sorry to disappoint you Peg, but I don't take most off ramps very fast. I have one ramp that I take regularly that's almost a 360 degree ramp. I take it at a low speed- but because I'm in the turn for so long, it's like going around a skidpad. The tires roll over every time. Maybe if the ramp were banked a little more, it wouldn't be so bad.
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:lol:

Well I was teasing mostly, but clearly I do not understand your term "roll over" .. as I just assumed it was short for "roll over and play dead" being an analogy to "squeal like a stuck pic".

So .. what *do* you mean by that?

I knew you were mostly teasing, but wanted to clear up that I don't drive like some kid that just got his license (I'm well beyond that in years).

My use of "roll over" sort of means "roll over and play dead". The best way to describe it is that I can feel the tire sidewalls flexing in the turn. It feels like the tires are rolling over the rims (sideways). This is more noticeable the taller the sidewall on the tire (my previous car was RWD and had 45 series summer tires- so they didn't "roll over" much at all).

Back to my original purpose- the Michelins are good tires- but I'd prefer something with a stiffer sidewall for better handling.

what is the treadwear of continental tyres?

The michelin pilot are a excellent tyres with a great grip

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I think its like something between Granite and Lime Stone :lol:

on the tire ware

i have had my se v6 fusion i have only had it for a few months and i have recenty moved to alabama on the way some fuck cut me off and the anti lock brakes locked up and needless to say i have a flat spot and i can not wait till i get new tires

I have the i4 auto with 16" continental's, and I was ready to take them off as soon as I left the dealer lot because of the other oem continental's I've had.

But these tires have far exceeded my expectations since taking delivery. In the past I have run Goodyear, Michelin, Yokohama, Firestone and Lee to name a few. But this car sticks like glue - especially merging into traffic, and I push it hard. Could be that the V6 has a little extra weight in the front end which contributes to the handling problems. As for the i4, with that setup, there are no problems here. None.

Well, maybe you have a tire issue. I know that I have a tire issue since I can break traction for a half second without powerbraking (and no I don't have a chip).

I was going around a semi-iced over semi-circular on-ramp today coming back from the postoffice - I was doing 40 and I didn't break traction even once.

And no I don't have crappy anti-lock brakes or traction control either. That stuff is for Hondas and Toyotas that need it due to inferior core design.