I thought of this also, never got around to it....

 

Are your seats perforated leather?

 

Yes.

 

You may be able to acquire all the parts from the lincoln and install them in yours. It would take a lot of work and extra wiring but I don't see why its not possible.

The cooled seats option is simply a fan with three speeds really under the seats that blows cold air up into them.

 

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You may be able to acquire all the parts from the lincoln and install them in yours. It would take a lot of work and extra wiring but I don't see why its not possible.

The cooled seats option is simply a fan with three speeds really under the seats that blows cold air up into them.
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God, that sounds like it feels good. :lmao:

 

[quote author=Canadian_LX link=topic=187133.msg3950402#msg3950402 date=1299098947]
You may be able to acquire all the parts from the lincoln and install them in yours. It would take a lot of work and extra wiring but I don't see why its not possible.

The cooled seats option is simply a fan with three speeds really under the seats that blows cold air up into them.
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Hi guys. :wavey: I have a feeling (but could be mistaken) that the entire seat underpinnings may need to be switched out and your old seat covers used to re-skin them to match. And Canadian makes a good point: Don't even bother unless yo have the perforated seats (or don't mind buying new seat covers).

Also, to my recollection (and to my butt, since I factory ordered the cooled seats in my MKZ so have actually experienced them), it is more than just a fan. There is some sort of "heat exchanger" which also cools the air. I read about it once, but don't recall enough at the moment to accurately describe the process and components. And I don't want to screw up the story.

Essentially, it could be done, but it would be expensive and labor intensive.

If anyone actually does it, be sure to take pictures and do a write-up.

Good luck. :cheers:

PS - To Ckenaan. Yes, it actually feels great in the summer. Once in a while, I like turning them on when I have an unsuspecting passenger/riend in the car and watching them wonder why the heck their butt is cooling off! :lmao:

 

Is there a heat exchanger? I didn't know this (to www.teamfordparts.com we go!)

If you have a look on their website Chris, you should be able to find a listing of all the parts required for a cooled seat option really. Since you have the perforated seats, it is *possible* but it may not be 100% economical and probably very labour intensive as BBF has mentioned.

I too LOVE the cooled seat option in summer. It's something that I don't think I'll ever be able to live without to be honest. Everyone makes fun of me because I'm so young but drive an "old man car" but I'll tell you one thing, those old men sure got it right with this one!

 

Thanks for the input guys! Its much appreciated as always! I will have to speak with some guys at the dealer. Unfortunately, the dealer i went through is Ford, not a branch of Lincoln. So i may even have to visit a Lincoln dealership. :shock:

Thanks again! :cheers:

 

[quote author=Ckenaan link=topic=187133.msg3950448#msg3950448 date=1299100379]
Thanks for the input guys! Its much appreciated as always! I will have to speak with some guys at the dealer. Unfortunately, the dealer i went through is Ford, not a branch of Lincoln. So i may even have to visit a Lincoln dealership. :shock:

Thanks again! :cheers:
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Leave the keys to the 2010 at home... otherwise you may end up *upgrading* :shock:

 

Hi guys. :wavey: Canadian, I found the information I had read before.

In response to the question of whether the MKZ seats blew ambient temp or cooled air, this was the reply:

"They use a Peltier device with a small fan to blow hot or cool air through the perforations. It's an electrical device that produces heat or cold depending on the polarity of the current."

And they provided this link to describe a Peltier device (Thermoelectric cooling): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

Hope it helps.

Good luck. :cheers:

 

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[quote author=Ckenaan link=topic=187133.msg3950448#msg3950448 date=1299100379]
Thanks for the input guys! Its much appreciated as always! I will have to speak with some guys at the dealer. Unfortunately, the dealer i went through is Ford, not a branch of Lincoln. So i may even have to visit a Lincoln dealership. :shock:

Thanks again! :cheers:
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Leave the keys to the 2010 at home... otherwise you may end up *upgrading* :shock:
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:lmao: I was thinking the same! Although, I favor the '06-'09 Front end of the Lincolns much more than the current gen. The new styling still has not grown on me, yet. I almost bought a used Zephyr before my new 2010. :shock: They are just gorgeous vehicles.

 

[quote author=bbf2530 link=topic=187133.msg3950457#msg3950457 date=1299100608]
H Canadian. :wavey: Found the information I had read before.

In response to the question of whether the MKZ seats blew ambient temp or cooled air, this was the reply:

"They use a Peltier device with a small fan to blow hot or cool air through the perforations. It's an electrical device that produces heat or cold depending on the polarity of the current."

And they provided this link to describe a Peltier device (Thermoelectric cooling): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

Hope it helps.

Good luck. :cheers:
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HMMM... so this would replace the current heating device, if im reading correctly. Wow, I didnt think they were seperate heating units from Ford to Lincoln. :shock:

 

Just to add, information directly from Team Ford Parts website:

1) W/o perforated leather Sand Right
2) Seat back heater Either Side
3) Seat back pad Right
4) Seat back frame Right
5) Spring Either Side
6) Lumbar support Either Side
7) Lower duct Either Side
8) Upper duct Either Side
9) Bracket Bracket Either Side
10) Vent Either Side
11) W/standard leather Sand Either Side
12) Non-locking Sand Either Side
13) Locking Sand Either Side
14) W/o perforated leather Sand Right
15) Seat cushion pad Right
16) Seat heater Either Side
17) Seat frame Right
18) Side air bag Either Side
19) Duct Either Side
20) Blower motor Either Side

 

[quote author=bbf2530 link=topic=187133.msg3950457#msg3950457 date=1299100608]
H Canadian. :wavey: Found the information I had read before.

In response to the question of whether the MKZ seats blew ambient temp or cooled air, this was the reply:

"They use a Peltier device with a small fan to blow hot or cool air through the perforations. It's an electrical device that produces heat or cold depending on the polarity of the current."

And they provided this link to describe a Peltier device (Thermoelectric cooling): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

Hope it helps.

Good luck. :cheers:
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Hmmm, i wonder what this part is called because it's not listed on teamfordparts.com website?

 

[quote author=Canadian_LX link=topic=187133.msg3950474#msg3950474 date=1299100967]
[quote author=bbf2530 link=topic=187133.msg3950457#msg3950457 date=1299100608]
H Canadian. :wavey: Found the information I had read before.

In response to the question of whether the MKZ seats blew ambient temp or cooled air, this was the reply:

"They use a Peltier device with a small fan to blow hot or cool air through the perforations. It's an electrical device that produces heat or cold depending on the polarity of the current."

And they provided this link to describe a Peltier device (Thermoelectric cooling): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

Hope it helps.

Good luck. :cheers:
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Hmmm, i wonder what this part is called because it's not listed on teamfordparts.com website?
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Hi C. :wavey: Beats me. :bash: :lmao:

Perhaps it is listed in the HVAC or electrical sections of the diagrams? Just a wild guess.

Good luck. :cheers:

 

you've made two erroneous posts in this thread already BBF... what is happening to you? :shock:

 

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you've made two erroneous posts in this thread already BBF... what is happening to you? :shock:
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hsnap:

 

They say that at my age, when it goes, it goes fast. Perhaps it just went? :eek4: :lmao:

 

His cooling fan has quit.... mind has overheated. :lmao:

 

I would love cooled seats ... but I live in Edmonton, Alberta ... and this year I think we're only going to have 12 days where it's not winter. :rofl:

 

Also, keep in mind, perforated for appearance, and for purposes of cooled seats are different types of perforations. Cooled seats usually use a smaller perforation, straight punched, all the way through the leather. Perforation for apperance is more of a pitting process, but does not go all the way through the leather typically.

 

[quote author=Ferendon link=topic=187133.msg3955321#msg3955321 date=1299546717]
Also, keep in mind, perforated for appearance, and for purposes of cooled seats are different types of perforations. Cooled seats usually use a smaller perforation, straight punched, all the way through the leather. Perforation for apperance is more of a pitting process, but does not go all the way through the leather typically.
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The leather in the Fusion Sport is perforated through the leather.

 

[quote author=bbf2530 link=topic=187133.msg3950457#msg3950457 date=1299100608]
"They use a Peltier device with a small fan to blow hot or cool air through the perforations. It's an electrical device that produces heat or cold depending on the polarity of the current."[/quote]So does this mean that if you already have heated seats that you can just reverse the polarity and have cooled seats? Now you've spiked my curiosity and I have to check the diagrams

 

opcorn: Please do.. Im still confused if its a completely separate unit in the Ford than in the Lincoln. :dunno:

 

So far they don't seem to list anything about the cooled part of the seats. They appear to be wired very similarly to the Fusion heated seats. Still looking....