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swoop.. is that a guess??
 

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i do know that the amp is for the 2 6x8 subs... so im 99% positive it is no different than the 6 disc system (the head unit doesnt put out for the two subs, the amp provides that). That being said if your upgrading your doors, you should always run your upgrade speakers form an amp anyways, not the head unit. Any head unit just doesnt put out enough, especially with components. It sounds way better too ;)

But that doesnt really answer your question lol... sorry.
 

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The power rating is probably misleading anyway. Whether it's 290 or 190, it's really just the peak power rating for all the channels. And of course "peak" power lasts for only an instant and doesnt happen very often. The true power rating is most likely closer to 3-5W RMS or continuous for each channel.
 

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you guys are being unfair. I measured many stock headunits power output with digital voltimeter. and output is around 10-20W RMS. Not great but not bad. The headunit is made by pioneer and uses almost the same aftermarket amplification circuit.
 

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10 - 20w rms is still horrible for a pair of nice aftermarkets though... dont get me wrong im not dissing the head unit though. Im just saying if you are going to get some nice aftermarkets you really dont want to be looking at running them off your head unit. thats all. A lot of people think that it is enough, but if you want the full potential of the speaker its just not good enough.
 

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agreeded, esspecially for any pair of components.

but then again this probably enough power for most people.
 

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Especially enough power for someone like me who spent 2 years working in construction.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not deaf by any stretch of the imagination, but I know for a fact that I couldn't appreciate the subtleties of high dollar sound (like just about half of America).
 

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i think youd be amazed... its not about the volume which makes a good system good (all those peeps with the bass you hear a mile away), but the clarity and imaging... I could take you into a controlled enviroment (mind you a car is not as good, but the fusion does "dead" the sound pretty damn well) and listen to a few different types of speakers and you'll be blown away. Its a big misconception a lot of people have. I played in a band (rock and punk) and my hearing is not well either, but boy let me tell you... hearing a nice pair is awesome.
 

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What did you say stern? :lol:

Yeah, believe me I know what you're saying. I could definitely tell a difference in my F150 when I upgraded from the factory system to a pair of Polk 3-ways powered by one MTX amp and two 8" JL's with another MTX amp.

Now if you were to replace those Polk speakers with some Sony speakers, I might be able to hear the difference. But, going with speakers that were twice the price of the polks and I doubt I'd be able to differentiate between the two.
 

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not only that... but it also depends on the source of your music, like i posted in another thread. If your ripping music at 128kbs and listening to it on an expensive system... you wasted your money.

Funny story: I had a friend come over who spent thousands on his home theatre, and complemented my setup, which cost less than $1500. He said "wow your setup is quite nice and sounds awesome... what do you have and how much did you pay?" I told him and he couldnt believe it. I showed him where the sound was coming from (iPod) and explained how compressed mp3s are. I further explained why its a waste to buy all that expensive preamps, amps, EQs, receivers and speakers if your source of music cant even reproduce the frequencies your hi-end setup can handle. End of story: He admitted to wasting his money lol.
 

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My brother-in-law has a Bose system. Mine is all Kenwood and Yamaha. Mine blows his out of the water. He won't admit it but his son already has :p
 

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Sterny.........I'd rather "squeeze" a nice pair.......lol...

That being said I have a 98 Explorer Sport that had the factory top of the line sound system. When I replaced the head unit and was chasing wires, I found a small amp near the right rear passenger seat, in front of the fender well. Is it possible the upgraded unit in the Fusion/Milan has a small sub amp somewhere driving the rear deck speakers? That would be great if it is, therefore you could possibly bypass that amp with something with more power to drive a 10" or 12" sub and not use line level inputs.

cheerssss.........
 

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the audiophille system does have an amp in the back running the 2 6x9 subs. But i dont know the gauge of the power or ground for the amp... meaning if your gonna run a 600 watt amp, you need to run a new power and ground line.
 

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stern, really? There's an awful lot I'm finding out about the audiophile system. I think they had the right idea but I'm just not too sure about the caliber of speaker they installed. I'm going to have to look at one when I'm at the dealership tomorrow and take some pictures. Since they've kept my car for a week and a half (minus two days when I had the bluetooth installed), they owe me big time.
 

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im pretty sure the amp for the audiophille system is pretty small and doesnt put out a lot. The guage of the wire is really important when you start getting into some high watt amps. im running a 6 guage power for a 600 watt amp. There is no way even a 8 guage power is running to the audiophille amp.
 

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[quote author=thereisnospoon link=topic=68770.msg1219438#msg1219438 date=1172012971]
My brother-in-law has a Bose system. Mine is all Kenwood and Yamaha. Mine blows his out of the water. He won't admit it but his son already has :p
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With Bose your are getting $20-40 speakers with $200-400 goodwill of bose quality and sound.
 
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