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[quote author=Chris06Fusion link=topic=66442.msg1139702#msg1139702 date=1168308862]
http://www.allpar.com/model/m/2008-minivans.html


I love the neon overhead lighting.... I may have to mod that into the fusion!


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Just showed that to the wife and the Edge is no longer an option. She has a town and country right now and looks like we will be getting another in the next year or 2. Damn i wanted the Edge to go with the Fusion.
 

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Since you are considering another T&C you must not have had the same experience as me. I just got rid of my wife's T&C 2 weeks ago and got her a new Hyundai Entourage. We bought the T&C with 43k miles and 2+ years old. In 3 years I put new tie rod ends, new steering rack, new transmission, the power doors and rear lift stopped working, hole in AC condenser, flooded front floor, weird sounds from the engine, oil leaks everywhere. I spent over $4000 in maintenance and I didn't even bother fixing the power doors ($700) and A/C ($900). Also, the engine is badly underpowered (something like 200 hp). Lastly, the front end wouldn't hold it's alignment and chewed up tires about every 20k miles. My wife's good friend bought a new T&C at the same time we bought our used one, and she's had nothing but trouble as well (except she had a warranty).

I bought the Entourage because it has the room and power of the Honda, but for about $5k less. And I have a factory warranty up to 60k miles and 100k on the powertrain. I would strongly recommend the Hyundai (or sister Kia Sedona) to anyone looking for a minivan.
 

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[quote author=ming321 link=topic=66442.msg1145327#msg1145327 date=1168566380]
Since you are considering another T&C you must not have had the same experience as me. I just got rid of my wife's T&C 2 weeks ago and got her a new Hyundai Entourage. We bought the T&C with 43k miles and 2+ years old. In 3 years I put new tie rod ends, new steering rack, new transmission, the power doors and rear lift stopped working, hole in AC condenser, flooded front floor, weird sounds from the engine, oil leaks everywhere. I spent over $4000 in maintenance and I didn't even bother fixing the power doors ($700) and A/C ($900). Also, the engine is badly underpowered (something like 200 hp). Lastly, the front end wouldn't hold it's alignment and chewed up tires about every 20k miles. My wife's good friend bought a new T&C at the same time we bought our used one, and she's had nothing but trouble as well (except she had a warranty).

I bought the Entourage because it has the room and power of the Honda, but for about $5k less. And I have a factory warranty up to 60k miles and 100k on the powertrain. I would strongly recommend the Hyundai (or sister Kia Sedona) to anyone looking for a minivan.
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knock on wood we have had no issues with ours at all. Right now it has 88K on it and no issues other than the power. We have the 3.3L and ya it is under powered. i personally hate mini vans but the wife will not give them up. plus we have 3 kids so we need the room.
 

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I'll keep them crossed. I'm afraid our T&C will keep me from owning another Chrysler product for a long time. We traded with 98k miles. I had the larger 3.8L and it was still underpowered. I have two kids and minivans can't be beat for practicality.
 

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I leased my Grand Caravan. Pays off in the long run since I have automotive ADD. And, it keeps the car under warranty at all times.

No problems other than fit and finish issues (at 1400 miles). I have never been too fond of Chrysler quality in the first place, but the functional content of their minivans made the Fords look like a total joke. And the fuel economy of the 3.8 is a little better than the loud and weak 4.2L in the Freestar. The Freestar didn't even offer a sunroof, the Caravan sunroof is freakin' huge! Stow N Go works pretty sweet for those unexpected trips to Lowe's or Home Depot to get large items.

The DVD Changer/Navigation/Video system is great...until you try to crank up the volume. I have the radio at max volume 95% of the time. And I could probably still hold a decent speakerphone cell phone conversation over it, thats how weak the power is. So much for a home theater on wheels.

The lease is 27 months, might consider the new minivans, the "Fairlane" if Ford does it right, or a Taurus X if I can acquire some Freestyle badges...Taurus X is the most ridiculous name.
 
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