[quote author=09SilverSEv6 link=topic=156411.msg3331615#msg3331615 date=1253339216]
WOW, you guy's read any good novels lately? (thats a joke BBF
I don't want to enter such a heated debate about gas and ethanol and what not. But I do have something to say, even if it is just a statement of ONE experience and WHAT I KNOW TO BE FACTUAL AS I HAVE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES, and ears.
My Fathers 08 F150 4x4 was knocking pretty good. He was filling up at Costco because it was cheaper. For whatever reason, (I don't care the reason, BBF) his gas cap did not suggest BP gasoline, like mine does. (he also doesn't sit around reading and memorizing the owners manual either)
Once he found out Ford was recommending BP gasoline, he switched.
Guess What....... NO MORE KNOCK.
Thats all I have to say. I'm not saying that BP is god of all that is oil, I could give two shits. I always hated BP because they always charge more for EVERYTHING.
You choose what you want to put in the tank.
I get the joke, good buddy! :lmao: I hope you were not worried that I would be offended by your reply. Heck, if I insulted easily, I would have quit this forum and taken up shuffleboard a long time ago!
Actually, your fathers experience backs up what I was trying to state.
As you stated, your fathers problem was bad gas at Costco (for whatever reason). When he switched to another name brand (in this case BP), his problem went away. So the cure was not a higher octane, it was a different (and major name) brand that happened to also be of better quality. Exactly what Ford recommends in the case of knocking/pinging/drive-ability problems.
Whether this directly applies to what we are talking about, who knows? It just shows that bad gas is out there. None of us are arguing that fact (well, I am not anyway).
However, filling with a higher octane/premium fuel is not the solution. Purchasing higher quality, name brand fuel is.
Ford makes this very clear in our Owners Manuals.
This is what Ford recommends if we have knocking/pinging etc. Again, a direct quote: "If you are experiencing starting, rough idle or hesitation driveability problems, try a different brand of unleaded gasoline. “Premium” unleaded gasoline is not recommended for vehicles designed to use “Regular” unleaded gasoline because it may cause these problems to become more pronounced. If the problems persist, see your authorized
I am not even saying that justageek is wrong concerning ethanol/octane etc. I am simply not taking a side other than to say that we should follow Ford's recommendations concerning our cars.
Of course, I do not mean we have to follow the "BP fuel" recommendation. That is simply a marketing strategy.
Again, hope this clears up any confusion concerning the information I supplied.
PS - I am in no way intelligent enough to memorize the Owners Manual. Hell, I forget my own address as I get older. I simply know how to research information, which sometimes is better than memorizing stuff at my advanced age!
PPS - And in case anyone was wondering, my opinion is not based solely on what Owners Manuals state, it is also based on many years of education, life experience and common sense.